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16 Honda Pilot, 4,658mi PP 0w20 #4784177
06/11/18 06:36 PM
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Here's the latest report for my Pilot. This fill has been ran for a little over 4500mi and MM read at 20%. Car was primarily short tripped and saw some 32F temps but nothing crazy as you'd expect in Texas. There was about 0.5qts of Amsoil SS 0w20 on the top of 5qts of PP 0w20 (D1G2) since it takes around 5.5qts for a full change.

For some reason OA didn't combine the last report with the two previous ones so I had to do it manually. Also, here are the universal averages (based on 6600mi) for this engine.







What y'all think?


2016 Honda Pilot 3.5V6 PP 0W20
2017 Honda Civic 1.5T Amsoil SS 5W30
Re: 16 Honda Pilot, 4,658mi PP 0w20 [Re: parshisa] #4784375
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You got a good sample of the J35Y6, you change the oil on time, and you have good driving manners.

I say you love your car, and Hondas tend to love you back and last many years.

Re: 16 Honda Pilot, 4,658mi PP 0w20 [Re: nap] #4784388
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Thank you for the kind words. I really do like the car even though it is primarily driven by my wife. It took me a while to educate her to a certain level of care and develop good driving practices but it definitely was worth it.

I might be slightly OCD about the cleanliness and perfect mechanical condition of my cars but what the heck, if it makes me feel good it probably is worth it.

As far as the UOA goes, i think following MM would be a good practice for these particular driving patterns.

Last edited by parshisa; 06/11/18 09:58 PM.

2016 Honda Pilot 3.5V6 PP 0W20
2017 Honda Civic 1.5T Amsoil SS 5W30
Re: 16 Honda Pilot, 4,658mi PP 0w20 [Re: parshisa] #4784409
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I think the MM works well for the PP oil, you could probably change at 15% as per standard practice.

Re: 16 Honda Pilot, 4,658mi PP 0w20 [Re: parshisa] #4784553
06/12/18 06:48 AM
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Great White North.. eh
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Good report. The Amsoil bumped your ending viscosity a little.

Soot is interesting, looking forward to others comments.

To confirm, the engine has 18979 total miles?


17 Cadillac ATS 2.0T, Edge D1G2 5w30, XG10575
17 Dodge GC, VWB 5w20, Fram DL11665
15 DL650, Rotella T6 5w40, KN-138
Small engines; RT5 10w30
Re: 16 Honda Pilot, 4,658mi PP 0w20 [Re: webfors] #4784582
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Correct, 18979mi at the time i dumped the oil. Why do you think amsoil had any effect on the final viscosity? Same 0w20 with very little difference in cst


2016 Honda Pilot 3.5V6 PP 0W20
2017 Honda Civic 1.5T Amsoil SS 5W30
Re: 16 Honda Pilot, 4,658mi PP 0w20 [Re: webfors] #4784606
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I haven't actually paid attention at soot in first. Now that you mentioned it soot seems to be slightly elevated compared to previous results. What could be the cause? and what are the thresholds?


2016 Honda Pilot 3.5V6 PP 0W20
2017 Honda Civic 1.5T Amsoil SS 5W30
Re: 16 Honda Pilot, 4,658mi PP 0w20 [Re: parshisa] #4784619
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Originally Posted By: parshisa
I haven't actually paid attention at soot in first. Now that you mentioned it soot seems to be slightly elevated compared to previous results. What could be the cause? and what are the thresholds?


I think soot is a normal by-product of DI engines, and OAI doesnít seem to think itís an issue. OAI does a lot of commercial fleet work and this measure is likely more directed at diesels than gasoline engines.

Iíve had a couple of .2%-.3% soot UOAs for my DI CRV that retreated to <.1% in subsequent evaluations of the same fill. My guess is that OAI only tests for soot if thereís some kind of indicator of an issue and otherwise they simply use the < .1% estimate. I wouldnít worry about it.

Re: 16 Honda Pilot, 4,658mi PP 0w20 [Re: parshisa] #4785156
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Here's an updated report with historical data as well as OAI comments. Two previous fills were Mobil 1 0w20 AFE



2016 Honda Pilot 3.5V6 PP 0W20
2017 Honda Civic 1.5T Amsoil SS 5W30
Re: 16 Honda Pilot, 4,658mi PP 0w20 [Re: parshisa] #4785298
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Another terrible Honda fuel dilution on a UOA.


2004 Corolla 124705
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74277
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 74705 4-22-18
Re: 16 Honda Pilot, 4,658mi PP 0w20 [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4785362
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Youíre not being serious are you?


2016 Honda Pilot 3.5V6 PP 0W20
2017 Honda Civic 1.5T Amsoil SS 5W30
Re: 16 Honda Pilot, 4,658mi PP 0w20 [Re: parshisa] #4785368
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Originally Posted By: parshisa
Youíre not being serious are you?


Totally


2004 Corolla 124705
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74277
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 74705 4-22-18
Re: 16 Honda Pilot, 4,658mi PP 0w20 [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4785375
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duh


2016 Honda Pilot 3.5V6 PP 0W20
2017 Honda Civic 1.5T Amsoil SS 5W30
Re: 16 Honda Pilot, 4,658mi PP 0w20 [Re: parshisa] #4786674
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Thanks for sharing. The Y6 is an Earth Dreams or DI variant of the J35, isnít it?

Re: 16 Honda Pilot, 4,658mi PP 0w20 [Re: bulwnkl] #4786758
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It is a DI but iím not sure if it is an Earthdreams. I would imagine it is lol


2016 Honda Pilot 3.5V6 PP 0W20
2017 Honda Civic 1.5T Amsoil SS 5W30
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