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09 Honda end link saga #4783662
06/11/18 09:03 AM
06/11/18 09:03 AM
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Chester11 Offline OP
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Sooooo...I took a shot at replacing the front sway bar end links and hilarity ensued.

Lower bolt would not spin even with an airgun, so I tried to cut it off. Cut on both sides of the sway bar, and the stud still wouldn't come loose. I tried every tool I own and butchered the [censored] out of it.

So it's off to the shop...I think the hole will have to be rebored. What a mess.

Re: 09 Honda end link saga [Re: Chester11] #4783670
06/11/18 09:18 AM
06/11/18 09:18 AM
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Oshawa, Ontario Canada
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Nothing on YouTube to help you? I'm sure the rust didn't help.


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Re: 09 Honda end link saga [Re: Chester11] #4783692
06/11/18 09:45 AM
06/11/18 09:45 AM
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Storrs, Connecticut
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I recently replaced the end links on my sister's 2003 Acura TL. What a nightmare. The bolts were very rusted, so much that the allen head on one side just looked like a round hole. Vice grips, heat, and Kroil was the only way it came off. This car was from Florida and has only been here for two winters.


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2009 BMW 328i (33k) - Castrol Edge Euro 0w40, MANN HU816X
Re: 09 Honda end link saga [Re: Chester11] #4783706
06/11/18 10:01 AM
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Trav Offline
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No torch use a nut splitter and hit it with a BFH it will come off. It doesnt have to be an expensive hydraulic one just one that fits and will work.

https://www.amazon.com/Tool-International-KTI70715-Universal-Splitter/dp/B00N3YAMIA


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Re: 09 Honda end link saga [Re: Chester11] #4783747
06/11/18 10:34 AM
06/11/18 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted By: Chester11
Sooooo...I took a shot at replacing the front sway bar end links and hilarity ensued.

Lower bolt would not spin even with an airgun, so I tried to cut it off. Cut on both sides of the sway bar, and the stud still wouldn't come loose. I tried every tool I own and butchered the [censored] out of it.

So it's off to the shop...I think the hole will have to be rebored. What a mess.


Oil and heat can go a a long way, even in corrosion free PA.


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Re: 09 Honda end link saga [Re: maxdustington] #4783760
06/11/18 10:49 AM
06/11/18 10:49 AM
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South Central PA
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Originally Posted By: maxdustington
Oil and heat can go a a long way, even in corrosion free PA.


LOL

I beg to differ on that big time!

PennDot loves their salt and here in the mountains the liquid stuff is common. The Camry doesn't go very far and it has several spots of corrosion on the suspension.


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Re: 09 Honda end link saga [Re: Delta] #4783976
06/11/18 02:39 PM
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I read that as a joke. Everyone whose been to the state knows PennDOT uses salt like it's going out of style. They're deathly afraid that if they don't go through a year's supply by the middle of December their budget won't increase as much as they want it to the following year.

Re: 09 Honda end link saga [Re: 853okg] #4783993
06/11/18 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted By: 853okg
I read that as a joke. Everyone whose been to the state knows PennDOT uses salt like it's going out of style. They're deathly afraid that if they don't go through a year's supply by the middle of December their budget won't increase as much as they want it to the following year.


I wanted to make it rhyme!

My dad bought a 1998 Silverado from PA in 2005 or so, it had like 250k miles on it. The underside of the bed was completely rust free, it blew me away. One year sitting in the yard it looked just like every other truck in Ontario. It had never been oil sprayed and was pretty much rust free, then it came to Ontario.

It is not just the salt, things rust quickly when you leave them outside here. I think it is the moisture in the air, especially during the summer months. I live in Toronto, pretty close to the lake, that must have something to do with it.

I am over 10 years out of date, and it could have been from the southernmost tip of PA. However, I do live in Canada and have formed a special bond with rusty vehicles.


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Re: 09 Honda end link saga [Re: Trav] #4784826
06/12/18 12:06 PM
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Storrs, Connecticut
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Originally Posted By: Trav
No torch use a nut splitter and hit it with a BFH it will come off. It doesnt have to be an expensive hydraulic one just one that fits and will work.

https://www.amazon.com/Tool-International-KTI70715-Universal-Splitter/dp/B00N3YAMIA


Ordered. That's awesome. Thanks for the link. thumbsup


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Re: 09 Honda end link saga [Re: Chester11] #4784930
06/12/18 02:14 PM
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Chester11 Offline OP
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thanks - didn't know this was even a thing. I should have asked before starting up the job.

surprisingly the bolts were not that visibly rusted and the top one came off pretty easily. I had trouble getting a socket on the bottom one, and figured cutting it would be easier. I'm kicking myself for not buying an impact swivel and just giving it the beans. (all my impacts are deep sockets, and was afraid of breaking my regular socket and swivel). I had to cut the top also, only because the stud was corroded and the bolt would not come off. Cutting the stud was easy with a sawzall, the nut, not so much. I did manage to take a couple chunks out of the frame, which should give the guys at the shop a laugh.

part of the problem is that the bottom is attached to the sway bar which once unhooked moves all over and striking force is dampened. my theory anyway - which I realized after I cutoff the top - dummy.

days later, and I'm still [censored].

here is the kicker - the shop I'm taking it to won't use customer provided parts. I somewhat understand, but I bought honda OE parts (in the bag), not some knockoff garbage. I fully expect a delay while they order low quality [censored], and I have to sell mine on ebay at a loss. or worse yet - they want to replace the entire sway bar and won't retap it. of course I'm also going out of town, and need a rental vehicle.

this is the case study in a hosed up DIY job - "it's 4 bolts, how hard can it be." ugh. I should take pictures of this s-show but the lens would be covered in tears. I broke it - I bought it (again?)

Re: 09 Honda end link saga [Re: Chester11] #4784954
06/12/18 02:44 PM
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Trav Offline
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Sorry to hear about this unfortunate fiasco! It happens, lesson learned. Anyway, get some normal length impacts and ball swivels no the standard universal joints. With those buggers you can have a real fiasco, like broken fingers.

Not pro tools but certainly good enough for occasional use, they seem to hold up okay.

https://www.harborfreight.com/2-pc-universal-impact-joint-socket-adapter-set-67920.html

https://www.harborfreight.com/13-pc-12-in-drive-sae-impact-socket-set-67918.html


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Re: 09 Honda end link saga [Re: Chester11] #4784960
06/12/18 02:59 PM
06/12/18 02:59 PM
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New Jersey
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New Jersey
I have done all four corners of my 2000 Accord and it never get any easier. I have tried open sockets to pair with hex keys but it still doesn't how the ball joint tight enough. And it's recessed into the lower arm so there's limited space for vice grips. Every time was a struggle.


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2000 S2000 45k
2011 Sienna XLE 88k
Re: 09 Honda end link saga [Re: Chester11] #4784966
06/12/18 03:04 PM
06/12/18 03:04 PM
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Guilford, CT
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Guilford, CT
Originally Posted By: Chester11
here is the kicker - the shop I'm taking it to won't use customer provided parts. I somewhat understand, but I bought honda OE parts (in the bag), not some knockoff garbage. I fully expect a delay while they order low quality [censored], and I have to sell mine on ebay at a loss. or worse yet - they want to replace the entire sway bar and won't retap it.


When you get the car back, take off the new parts the shop installed and install your parts. They won't be all rusted and they'll be easy to remove this time.


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Re: 09 Honda end link saga [Re: mister_two] #4784968
06/12/18 03:06 PM
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Get one of these, an impact swivel and short impact sockets and you can blast them right on and off along with all sorts of other work. Seriously!

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4689386/1/Cordless_Impact


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Re: 09 Honda end link saga [Re: Chester11] #4785032
06/12/18 04:27 PM
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I'm going to go broke just looking at all the neat tools Trav posts links to smile

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