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Ester oil change-partial #4782494
06/09/18 08:04 PM
06/09/18 08:04 PM
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Wisconsin
Lrobby99 Offline OP
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Wisconsin
I am a first time ester user.
This is a Suzuki 90Deg twin liquid cooled cycle engine 1037cc variety. Six hundred mile first service, replaced the factory oil (said to be conventional) with Yamalube blended synthetic 10w-40.

I did not like results. On this bike, the sudden appearance of audible idle hammer following the first oil change is a well discussed subject a lot of owners report. Not actually harmful. Just an annoying, unwanted, and not uncommon idle knock sound that comes and goes at idle.
I did not like it. I hated it immediately. That was yesterday.

Today I pulled the drain plug and drained out everything that would come out. Didn't change the horizontally mounted filter. What drained out was about 80% of the oil capacity.
Replaced it with Bel Rey Synthetic Ester Blend. 15w-50

Took a long ride and everything behaved beautifully. Engine like silk, shifted perfectly smooth. (wet clutch)
And no noticeable Idle Hammer.

Was it okay to end up with about an 80/20 mixture? The two are compatible?
I take it 2-3000 miles is well within reason for range on this oil in this application?
The oil weight will come down before cold weather returns here to SE WI
thanks,


'18 Suzuki DL1000XT
'15 Taurus Limited Motorcraft Synthetic 5W-20,
Honda HRR2169VYA 21" mower blended 10W-30.
Re: Ester oil change-partial [Re: Lrobby99] #4782509
06/09/18 08:21 PM
06/09/18 08:21 PM
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I'm not one of the regulars, but in my opinion, your bike should be fine. Iv'e been changing oil in motorcycles for over 50 years. The compatibility of different oils being mixed stopped being a problem a long time ago. A lot of times the noises you hear in your engine are not caused by the oil. Any synthetic oil you put in your motor is going to be just fine. I would just follow Yamaha's recommendation of type (weight) of oil.

Re: Ester oil change-partial [Re: Lrobby99] #4782525
06/09/18 08:37 PM
06/09/18 08:37 PM
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You will be fine, no problems with the mix.

I too like heavier oils such as 50 grade or even 60 grade in my wet-clutch motorcycles.


Castrol GTX Ultraclean 15W40 A3/B3 + Wesfil-Cooper Z154
Re: Ester oil change-partial [Re: Lrobby99] #4782621
06/09/18 10:48 PM
06/09/18 10:48 PM
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Idaho
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Most all oils are blends of some sort or another..10w oils are good to at least 0*f are you riding at below 0*f?


2015 Ford F150 2.7
2018 Ford F350 6.2
Re: Ester oil change-partial [Re: Lrobby99] #4782837
06/10/18 08:20 AM
06/10/18 08:20 AM
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Wisconsin
Lrobby99 Offline OP
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Good to know.
Never having heard of ester oil to begin with, I picked it off the cycle dealer shelf based just on the weight I wanted to try, and the Bel Rey claim it was motorcycle and Thumper oil.

And no, not below zero. Below freezing yes, but not below zero. Unless we're talking Centigrade.
Thanks!


'18 Suzuki DL1000XT
'15 Taurus Limited Motorcraft Synthetic 5W-20,
Honda HRR2169VYA 21" mower blended 10W-30.
Re: Ester oil change-partial [Re: Lrobby99] #4782882
06/10/18 09:10 AM
06/10/18 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted By: Lrobby99
I am a first time ester user.
This is a Suzuki 90Deg twin liquid cooled cycle engine 1037cc variety. Six hundred mile first service, replaced the factory oil (


That's an interesting bike:



"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Ester oil change-partial [Re: Linctex] #4783575
06/11/18 06:37 AM
06/11/18 06:37 AM
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Wisconsin
Lrobby99 Offline OP
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Wisconsin
I have the black version, but yes-they get the job done.


'18 Suzuki DL1000XT
'15 Taurus Limited Motorcraft Synthetic 5W-20,
Honda HRR2169VYA 21" mower blended 10W-30.
Re: Ester oil change-partial [Re: Lrobby99] #4784436
06/11/18 10:57 PM
06/11/18 10:57 PM
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I had a 2008 DL1000 Vstrom. Gobs of power but heavy for anything much more than fire roads. I rode about 90% street so it worked for me. I used Rotella T4 in mine with no problems, but that was 10 years ago. I did change the oil in my Harley Dyna Saturday and went from Valvoline Vr1 to Redline 20w50. I’m “ester curious”, so we’ll see what happens.

Re: Ester oil change-partial [Re: gman2304] #4784623
06/12/18 07:55 AM
06/12/18 07:55 AM
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Wisconsin
Lrobby99 Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: gman2304
I had a 2008 DL1000 Vstrom. Gobs of power but heavy for anything much more than fire roads. I rode about 90% street so it worked for me. I used Rotella T4 in mine with no problems, but that was 10 years ago. I did change the oil in my Harley Dyna Saturday and went from Valvoline Vr1 to Redline 20w50. I’m “ester curious”, so we’ll see what happens.


"ester curious"
Now that's a good one.


'18 Suzuki DL1000XT
'15 Taurus Limited Motorcraft Synthetic 5W-20,
Honda HRR2169VYA 21" mower blended 10W-30.
Re: Ester oil change-partial [Re: gman2304] #4786882
06/14/18 05:50 PM
06/14/18 05:50 PM
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Arizona
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Originally Posted By: gman2304
I did change the oil in my Harley Dyna Saturday and went from Valvoline Vr1 to Redline 20w50. I’m “ester curious”, so we’ll see what happens.


My brother runs Red Line 10W30 (the automotive bottles, not the m/c label) in his Dyna to excellent effect.


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