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#4781470 - 06/08/18 04:37 PM Gas to liquid base oil
Spitter Offline


Registered: 06/02/18
Posts: 39
Loc: Kentucky
What oils have the gas to liquid base, i know pennzoil does?
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#4781484 - 06/08/18 04:53 PM Re: Gas to liquid base oil [Re: Spitter]
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Registered: 07/25/17
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Loc: Texas (south)
Mobil 1 had a flavor that was GTL under they realized it's snake oil
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#4781541 - 06/08/18 05:59 PM Re: Gas to liquid base oil [Re: Spitter]
PeterPolyol Offline


Registered: 03/06/16
Posts: 1345
Loc: toronto
There you have it folks. An entire synthesis method is 'snake oil'.
LOL

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#4781553 - 06/08/18 06:17 PM Re: Gas to liquid base oil [Re: Spitter]
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Registered: 04/04/16
Posts: 1231
Loc: Oregon
Pennzoil and Quaker State products with "Pureplus technology." Also some Rotella products (5W-30 SN/CK-4 Multi-Vehicle for example)

Some Mobil 1 products (0W-40 is one for sure).


Edited by 1JZ_E46 (06/08/18 06:24 PM)
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#4781566 - 06/08/18 06:26 PM Re: Gas to liquid base oil [Re: FermeLaPorte]
1JZ_E46 Offline


Registered: 04/04/16
Posts: 1231
Loc: Oregon
Originally Posted By: FermeLaPorte
Mobil 1 had a flavor that was GTL under they realized it's snake oil


Everyone can ignore this.

And they still use it, btw.
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#4781570 - 06/08/18 06:29 PM Re: Gas to liquid base oil [Re: PeterPolyol]
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Registered: 12/26/05
Posts: 9421
Loc: Upper Midwest
Originally Posted By: PeterPolyol
There you have it folks. An entire synthesis method is 'snake oil'.
LOL

And people complain about GHT wink
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#4781717 - 06/08/18 08:52 PM Re: Gas to liquid base oil [Re: Spitter]
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Registered: 04/08/09
Posts: 384
Loc: Southern VA
This begs a question from me. Is there an advantage to the GTL base stocks? I'm happy with how PP performs in my Tundra but I'm not sure it performs any different than the Mobil 1 I have used in it previously.
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#4781741 - 06/08/18 09:24 PM Re: Gas to liquid base oil [Re: 1JZ_E46]
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Registered: 12/05/09
Posts: 24620
Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Originally Posted By: 1JZ_E46
Pennzoil and Quaker State products with "Pureplus technology." Also some Rotella products (5W-30 SN/CK-4 Multi-Vehicle for example)

Yes, I, too, am in trouble with certified "snake oil" in my sump. wink
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#4781749 - 06/08/18 09:41 PM Re: Gas to liquid base oil [Re: 1JZ_E46]
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Registered: 06/16/05
Posts: 569
Loc: Danville, Indiana
Originally Posted By: 1JZ_E46
Originally Posted By: FermeLaPorte
Mobil 1 had a flavor that was GTL under they realized it's snake oil


Everyone can ignore this.

And they still use it, btw.


In which oil?
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#4781758 - 06/08/18 09:47 PM Re: Gas to liquid base oil [Re: klt1986]
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Registered: 03/04/17
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Loc: Soviet State of Washington
Originally Posted By: klt1986
This begs a question from me. Is there an advantage to the GTL base stocks? I'm happy with how PP performs in my Tundra but I'm not sure it performs any different than the Mobil 1 I have used in it previously.





It’s another way to make Group 3 base. That’s all. Marketing makes it out to be the next best thing. With that said it is still a good product. Shell has gone all in with their GTL plant in Qatar so they need to recoup the countless billions poured into that complex.
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#4781779 - 06/08/18 10:22 PM Re: Gas to liquid base oil [Re: Spitter]
spj Offline


Registered: 10/14/17
Posts: 62
Loc: north east
Mobil 1 0W30 AFE for one

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#4781792 - 06/08/18 10:38 PM Re: Gas to liquid base oil [Re: Spitter]
dwendt44 Offline


Registered: 05/17/06
Posts: 3972
Loc: Central Wisconsin
Pure crud oil is pretty dirty with contaminants,
heavy minerals, and just plain dirt.
GTL is significantly cleaner to start with and the
end product and it's quality can be better controlled.

My 2¢
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#4781823 - 06/08/18 11:35 PM Re: Gas to liquid base oil [Re: IndyFan]
1JZ_E46 Offline


Registered: 04/04/16
Posts: 1231
Loc: Oregon
Originally Posted By: IndyFan
Originally Posted By: 1JZ_E46
Originally Posted By: FermeLaPorte
Mobil 1 had a flavor that was GTL under they realized it's snake oil


Everyone can ignore this.

And they still use it, btw.


In which oil?


0W-40 “FS”
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#4781857 - 06/09/18 01:42 AM Re: Gas to liquid base oil [Re: IndyFan]
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Registered: 06/09/03
Posts: 1928
Loc: Sequim, WA
Originally Posted By: IndyFan
Originally Posted By: 1JZ_E46
Originally Posted By: FermeLaPorte
Mobil 1 had a flavor that was GTL under they realized it's snake oil


Everyone can ignore this.

And they still use it, btw.


In which oil?


Many. CAS # 848301-69-9 shows up in the SDS of these oils:

Mobil 1 0W-20
Mobil 1 0W30
Mobil 1 5W-20
ESP 0W-40
ESP X1 0W-30
ESP X2 0W-20
ESP X3 0W-40
Formula M 5W-40
FS 0W-40
FS X2 5W-50
High Mileage 5W-20
Turbo Diesel Truck 4W-40
ESP LV 0W-30

Ed
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