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Gas to liquid base oil #4781470
06/08/18 03:37 PM
06/08/18 03:37 PM
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Kentucky
Spitter Offline OP
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Kentucky
What oils have the gas to liquid base, i know pennzoil does?


2004 Silverado 5.3
Pennzoil ultra platinum 10w30 acdelco upf44
2006 Buick lucerne 3.8
Pennzoil ultra platinum 5w30 acdelco pf47
Re: Gas to liquid base oil [Re: Spitter] #4781484
06/08/18 03:53 PM
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Texas (south)
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Mobil 1 had a flavor that was GTL under they realized it's snake oil


Always Mobil 1
2014 1.6L Nissan Versa Sedan, 5 spd, 5k OCI.
2011 3.5L Chevrolet Impala, Automatic, 5k OCI.
Re: Gas to liquid base oil [Re: Spitter] #4781541
06/08/18 04:59 PM
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Toronto
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There you have it folks. An entire synthesis method is 'snake oil'.
LOL


...as more root causes are discovered, and as events that seemed spontaneous have their origins revealed...
Re: Gas to liquid base oil [Re: Spitter] #4781553
06/08/18 05:17 PM
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Oregon
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Pennzoil and Quaker State products with "Pureplus technology." Also some Rotella products (5W-30 SN/CK-4 Multi-Vehicle for example)

Some Mobil 1 products (0W-40 is one for sure).

Last edited by 1JZ_E46; 06/08/18 05:24 PM.

2007 X5 4.8i: M1 HM 10W-30
2016 Countryman S: EDGE 0W-30
Re: Gas to liquid base oil [Re: FermeLaPorte] #4781566
06/08/18 05:26 PM
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Oregon
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Originally Posted By: FermeLaPorte
Mobil 1 had a flavor that was GTL under they realized it's snake oil


Everyone can ignore this.

And they still use it, btw.


2007 X5 4.8i: M1 HM 10W-30
2016 Countryman S: EDGE 0W-30
Re: Gas to liquid base oil [Re: PeterPolyol] #4781570
06/08/18 05:29 PM
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Upper Midwest
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Originally Posted By: PeterPolyol
There you have it folks. An entire synthesis method is 'snake oil'.
LOL

And people complain about GHT wink


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Re: Gas to liquid base oil [Re: Spitter] #4781717
06/08/18 07:52 PM
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Southern VA
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This begs a question from me. Is there an advantage to the GTL base stocks? I'm happy with how PP performs in my Tundra but I'm not sure it performs any different than the Mobil 1 I have used in it previously.


Wife: 08 Honda CR-V 4WD, M1 5W-20
Me: 11 Toyota Tundra DC 4WD 5.7L, PP 5W-30
Me Work: 06 Ford Explorer 4WD 4.0L, Pennzoil 5W-30
Son: 14 Toyota Corolla S, M1 AFE 0W-20
Re: Gas to liquid base oil [Re: 1JZ_E46] #4781741
06/08/18 08:24 PM
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Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Originally Posted By: 1JZ_E46
Pennzoil and Quaker State products with "Pureplus technology." Also some Rotella products (5W-30 SN/CK-4 Multi-Vehicle for example)

Yes, I, too, am in trouble with certified "snake oil" in my sump. wink


Plain, simple Garak.

2008 Infiniti G37 - Shell ROTELLA T6 Multi-Vehicle 5w-30, NAPA Gold 7356
1984 F-150 4.9L - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515
Re: Gas to liquid base oil [Re: 1JZ_E46] #4781749
06/08/18 08:41 PM
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Danville, Indiana
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Originally Posted By: 1JZ_E46
Originally Posted By: FermeLaPorte
Mobil 1 had a flavor that was GTL under they realized it's snake oil


Everyone can ignore this.

And they still use it, btw.


In which oil?


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15 Ford Transit 105k, Reman 3.5 @85k
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Re: Gas to liquid base oil [Re: klt1986] #4781758
06/08/18 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted By: klt1986
This begs a question from me. Is there an advantage to the GTL base stocks? I'm happy with how PP performs in my Tundra but I'm not sure it performs any different than the Mobil 1 I have used in it previously.





It’s another way to make Group 3 base. That’s all. Marketing makes it out to be the next best thing. With that said it is still a good product. Shell has gone all in with their GTL plant in Qatar so they need to recoup the countless billions poured into that complex.


2017 Mazda CX-5 GT.

Valvoline Modern Engine 0w20
Mobil 1 EP 108A
Re: Gas to liquid base oil [Re: Spitter] #4781779
06/08/18 09:22 PM
06/08/18 09:22 PM
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north east
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north east
Mobil 1 0W30 AFE for one

Re: Gas to liquid base oil [Re: Spitter] #4781792
06/08/18 09:38 PM
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Central Wisconsin
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Central Wisconsin
Pure crud oil is pretty dirty with contaminants,
heavy minerals, and just plain dirt.
GTL is significantly cleaner to start with and the
end product and it's quality can be better controlled.

My 2¢


There's no such thing as:
Too big of a battery,
Too large of a gas tank,
or too loud of a horn,
or too bright headlights.
Re: Gas to liquid base oil [Re: IndyFan] #4781823
06/08/18 10:35 PM
06/08/18 10:35 PM
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Oregon
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Originally Posted By: IndyFan
Originally Posted By: 1JZ_E46
Originally Posted By: FermeLaPorte
Mobil 1 had a flavor that was GTL under they realized it's snake oil


Everyone can ignore this.

And they still use it, btw.


In which oil?


0W-40 “FS”


2007 X5 4.8i: M1 HM 10W-30
2016 Countryman S: EDGE 0W-30
Re: Gas to liquid base oil [Re: IndyFan] #4781857
06/09/18 12:42 AM
06/09/18 12:42 AM
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Sequim, WA
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Sequim, WA
Originally Posted By: IndyFan
Originally Posted By: 1JZ_E46
Originally Posted By: FermeLaPorte
Mobil 1 had a flavor that was GTL under they realized it's snake oil


Everyone can ignore this.

And they still use it, btw.


In which oil?


Many. CAS # 848301-69-9 shows up in the SDS of these oils:

Mobil 1 0W-20
Mobil 1 0W30
Mobil 1 5W-20
ESP 0W-40
ESP X1 0W-30
ESP X2 0W-20
ESP X3 0W-40
Formula M 5W-40
FS 0W-40
FS X2 5W-50
High Mileage 5W-20
Turbo Diesel Truck 4W-40
ESP LV 0W-30

Ed


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