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#4781095 - 06/08/18 09:52 AM 2017 Honda CR-V 1.5T, Mobil 1 EP 0W-20, 10,188 mi
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Registered: 08/30/04
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Loc: CA


Background info and general thoughts:

- This oil fill was installed at the vehicleís first oil change, which took place at 9,382 miles.
- At the time of oil sampling, the vehicle had been driven for more than 30 minutes at highway speeds. OLM was at 5% remaining. A Genuine Honda Oil Filter (A02) was used for the duration of this oil fill.
- At the time of oil sampling, the oil level was not abnormally high.
- Driving style consists of many short 5-10 mile trips in-town, however, the vehicle sees several 150 mi highway trips each month.
- I confirmed using the Honda J2534 rewrite tool that the vehicle has the latest engine calibration installed.
- Bearing wear appears to be controlled and the oxidation/nitration numbers are quite favorable. Despite the high fuel dilution, the oil appears to be doing its job very well.
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#4781112 - 06/08/18 10:11 AM Re: 2017 Honda CR-V 1.5T, Mobil 1 EP 0W-20, 10,188 mi [Re: The Critic]
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Realize this engine is still fairly new, but isnít 3.7ppm iron/1,000 miles still pretty high? Maybe fuel dilution isnít quite so harmless.

This engine does seem more prone to fuel dilution than most. There was an extended sales stop in China for this reason; still waiting to see if American Honda incorporates any of the changes made for the Chinese market n

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#4781124 - 06/08/18 10:24 AM Re: 2017 Honda CR-V 1.5T, Mobil 1 EP 0W-20, 10,188 mi [Re: Danh]
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Originally Posted By: Danh
Realize this engine is still fairly new, but isnít 3.7ppm iron/1,000 miles still pretty high? Maybe fuel dilution isnít quite so harmless.

This engine does seem more prone to fuel dilution than most. There was an extended sales stop in China for this reason; still waiting to see if American Honda incorporates any of the changes made for the Chinese market n


No. 3.7 parts per million of iron per 1,000 miles is not high.
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#4781129 - 06/08/18 10:29 AM Re: 2017 Honda CR-V 1.5T, Mobil 1 EP 0W-20, 10,188 mi [Re: The Critic]
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Does Mobil 1 EP 0w20 really only has 944ppm's of Calcium?
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#4781156 - 06/08/18 10:46 AM Re: 2017 Honda CR-V 1.5T, Mobil 1 EP 0W-20, 10,188 mi [Re: deven]
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Originally Posted By: deven
Does Mobil 1 EP 0w20 really only has 944ppm's of Calcium?




All the new formulations for the most part have lowered calcium. Itís not a issue.
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#4781182 - 06/08/18 11:11 AM Re: 2017 Honda CR-V 1.5T, Mobil 1 EP 0W-20, 10,188 mi [Re: The Critic]
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Yikes. Oil was water thin when changed.
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#4781256 - 06/08/18 12:27 PM Re: 2017 Honda CR-V 1.5T, Mobil 1 EP 0W-20, 10,188 mi [Re: 1JZ_E46]
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Registered: 07/19/16
Posts: 41
Loc: WA
Originally Posted By: 1JZ_E46
Yikes. Oil was water thin when changed.


water has a viscosity of 0.294 CST @ 100c

soooo... not quite.


Edited by John_Dude (06/08/18 12:27 PM)

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#4781279 - 06/08/18 12:53 PM Re: 2017 Honda CR-V 1.5T, Mobil 1 EP 0W-20, 10,188 mi [Re: John_Dude]
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Registered: 04/04/16
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Originally Posted By: John_Dude
Originally Posted By: 1JZ_E46
Yikes. Oil was water thin when changed.


water has a viscosity of 0.294 CST @ 100c

soooo... not quite.


It's called a figure of speech.
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#4781302 - 06/08/18 01:28 PM Re: 2017 Honda CR-V 1.5T, Mobil 1 EP 0W-20, 10,188 mi [Re: The Critic]
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These new Honda engines do not perform the same as the old Honda engines with respect to UOAs. I used to gush over the boring Honda UOAs. These are not boring.

I personally would not run a 20 weight in an engine that is known to reduce the viscosity of oil by 25-30%.
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#4781330 - 06/08/18 01:55 PM Re: 2017 Honda CR-V 1.5T, Mobil 1 EP 0W-20, 10,188 mi [Re: The Critic]
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Registered: 10/23/05
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Mouse milk. laugh Is the factory fill a 5W-16 or 0W-16? What viscosity grade is recommended?

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#4781335 - 06/08/18 01:59 PM Re: 2017 Honda CR-V 1.5T, Mobil 1 EP 0W-20, 10,188 mi [Re: The Critic]
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Registered: 03/09/16
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Would it be wise to cut the interval back to 5k miles and see what that does for the fuel dilution? Its interesting that Honda's recall on some of those 1.5T motors states the the fuel issues had to do with cold climates... but this 1.5T is operated in CA.
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#4781345 - 06/08/18 02:12 PM Re: 2017 Honda CR-V 1.5T, Mobil 1 EP 0W-20, 10,188 mi [Re: The Critic]
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Registered: 10/23/05
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Loc: Fredericksburg, VA
In my opinion, the fuel content will reach steady state amount too quickly (maybe within 1k to 2k miles), so changing the oil at 5k miles isnít going to get the oil changed before it builds up more fuel in it. If one wanted to counteract the effect on viscosity, one could initially add less than the full amount and then starting around 1k miles gradually add oil one or two viscosity grades higher until the oil level is full.

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#4781434 - 06/08/18 04:00 PM Re: 2017 Honda CR-V 1.5T, Mobil 1 EP 0W-20, 10,188 mi [Re: The Critic]
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I would run a 30 grade to 15% on the MM. is the sump really 4qts?...maybe change it at 5k/50%.

Honda has a recall in China for fuel dilution...in China
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#4781444 - 06/08/18 04:11 PM Re: 2017 Honda CR-V 1.5T, Mobil 1 EP 0W-20, 10,188 mi [Re: The Critic]
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Registered: 10/16/10
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0w-20 is specíd. Sump + filter = 3.7 quarts.

And I still think 3.7 ppm of iron/1,000 Miles is a lot for a 1.5 liter engine.

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#4781568 - 06/08/18 06:28 PM Re: 2017 Honda CR-V 1.5T, Mobil 1 EP 0W-20, 10,188 mi [Re: The Critic]
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Registered: 05/21/17
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Loc: TX
Twice as much of iron per 1k as i had on my second drain. I doesnít look like stratching OCI that far is a bright idea. Although Iím going 7.5K on my cutrent fill
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