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j #4780986
06/08/18 08:00 AM
06/08/18 08:00 AM
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northern NY
Driz Offline OP
Driz  Offline OP

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northern NY
Its just amazing the [censored] oil change places will do to make a buck. My buddy who is a pretty good wrench himself has started getting lazy the last few years so he tries to let the oil change outfits change his when he can. He hits the bargains and coupon things whenever he can. So a couple weeks ago he had one of those $15 coupons and took his 03 Grand Cherokee in.
Heís at my place addressing a few issues on the old beast and we decide to check the oil and other things. He told me he had it done someplace and his $15 coupon deal. He also mentioned that the guy said he had to charge him $5 extra because those grands took 6 quarts and the coupon was only good for 5. I thought that odd since I had owned 2 of those nasty trucks with the exactly same 4L and Selecttrack tranny and didnít recall ever buying extra single quarts, odd.
We take the stick and you guessed it way over.......about a quart. I measured out a quart in an old container marked it and drained it to the line. Checking it again the stick was dead bang on the line. What a coincidence right? Equally surprising was the wrench somehow not knowing those Jeeps only take 5 when they for years were one of the more popular cars around in snow country.
The next thing was how dirty the oil looked for 3 weeks sitting in the yard and 400 miles on it. It wasnít nasty but it sure looked more like well kept 3000+ than new to me for a car that ran well and wasnít an oil burner. The more I think about it I bet he simply dumped a new quart on top of the old and tossed on a filter mad. Starts to make sense doesnít it?
I bet this sort of ďMISTAKEĒ mad happens all over all the time which is why I always tell everybody. Do your own. If you canít or donít want to take it to that local small shop (the one all the locals use and worship the guy for his honestyĒ. With those big places and especially on deals you seldom know what oil you are getting and who knows which bargain budget filters you are getting.

Re: j [Re: Driz] #4781014
06/08/18 08:20 AM
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The Midwest
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Fewer people change their own oil. I've only paid for an oil change once in my life. When I lived in a subdivision, I was only one of two guys that changed oil themselves.


Wife: 15' Audi A4 quattro 6 speed manual
Me: 13' VW GTI 3 door 6 speed manual

Re: j [Re: Driz] #4781024
06/08/18 08:33 AM
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Minnesota
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Minnesota
You couldn't pay me to have someone change my oil, or anything else for that matter. Nobody cares about your stuff.


2010 Honda Civic LX
Valvoline SynPower 5w-20 - Napa Gold oil filter
59,992 miles
Re: j [Re: skyactiv] #4781026
06/08/18 08:36 AM
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Columbus, Ohio
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Originally Posted By: skyactiv
Fewer people change their own oil. I've only paid for an oil change once in my life. When I lived in a subdivision, I was only one of two guys that changed oil themselves.


Most people these days that I know take it to these quickie places.


2009 Mercury Grand Marquis, 8 cyl auto, 86xxx miles, PU/Fram Ultra
2005 Hyundai Sonata, 4 cyl auto, 97xxx miles, Maxlife/OEM Filter
Current oil stash: 498 qts.


Re: j [Re: Driz] #4781031
06/08/18 08:42 AM
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NY
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I'll do my own repair work until I can't wrench no more.


NAPA FULL SYNTHETIC 0w20 Partsplus oil filter
Wix air filter
Re: j [Re: Driz] #4781041
06/08/18 08:50 AM
06/08/18 08:50 AM
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New Jersey
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The 2003 Grand Cherokee takes 6 qts with either the 4.0L or the 4.7L.


"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." --- Thomas Paine
Re: j [Re: mx5miata] #4781054
06/08/18 09:07 AM
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North Carolina
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Originally Posted By: mx5miata
I'll do my own repair work until I can't wrench no more.
Right on!


1979 Garelli Rally Sport
2009 Cub Cadet LT1042
2002 BMW 540 M Sport (totaled)
2011 MB E350 4Matic wagon
1979 CJ-7
Re: j [Re: Ursatdx] #4781104
06/08/18 10:02 AM
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Clinton Twp. MI
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Originally Posted By: Ursatdx
The 2003 Grand Cherokee takes 6 qts with either the 4.0L or the 4.7L.

If true maybe his dipstick is off.




Re: j [Re: Driz] #4781107
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Or maybe OP is right and a single quart was poured on top.


I use the overseas manual to choose my oil viscosity.

Using AMSOIL‚ĄĘ

Hers: 2008 Jeep Liberty 147k, SS5w30/Amsoil

His: 2015 4Runner 53k, OE5w30/Wix

Re: j [Re: Driz] #4781147
06/08/18 10:39 AM
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Wisconsin
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These are the stories that make me so thankful that if I canít do something myself I have good friends and family. I havenít paid a shop for anything other then a alignment in atleast 10 years. I do all my own oil changes and repaid as much as I can myself. These stories are so prevalent it makes me wonder how many older cars are driving around that havenít gotten the service thatís been paid for, for years.


11 Silverado 60k Rotella Gas Truck and Carquest filter
11 Traverse 118k Super Tech FS HM and Carquest filter
78 Chevy C10 Stepside
Re: j [Re: Driz] #4781162
06/08/18 10:49 AM
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MA
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When I was busier, I used to take it to those quick change places, but always checked the oil and filter afterwards. I also used to get out and walk around so I could see them working on the car. Nothing crazy ever happened aside from once when at Sears, they put in 5 quarts in a car that only held 4. Changed my own oil after that, but then I got lazy and had the quick change place do it. I still take it to a mechanic once in a while and give him the oil and filter. Used to be $10 just for labor, but now it's up to $20, but they also rotate tires and fill up all fluids.

Re: j [Re: Driz] #4781186
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The very first oil change on my GTO I had to get done at a "quickie lube" place because I was working crazy long hours downtown. I was charged $110.00 for 7 quarts of Mobil 5w30 and filter which I thought was a bit high but it had to be done. I had this done on my lunch break and when I was going back to the office I started hearing a metallic clanging sound every time I hit a bump. I get to the parking garage and look underneath my car only to see the freaking skid plate hanging. I am now fuming since I can't really drive the car home. So I call the "quickie lube" place and ask to speak with the manager and to make a long story short they basically told me to pound sand. I had to call my wife to pick me up, and take me to a local dealer to pick up a bolt for the kid plate, fortunately the parts guy was able to find one at a cost of $25 bucks. So after that debacle nobody touches my cars but me, if I screw it up its on me and I'll learn from my mistakes, and I will continue maintaining my cars myself and I'm also teaching my 7 year old daughter how to do it, so in the future these shady places don't take advantage of her.

Re: j [Re: Driz] #4781855
06/09/18 01:34 AM
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Cave City KY
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i change my own oil and do my own repairs because i like it done my way.


1996 Chevy 1500 W/T 4.3 V6.
Mobil 1 HM 10W30 Fram XG3980

A few old lawn boys.

Re: j [Re: Driz] #4781893
06/09/18 04:49 AM
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The quick shop I use is owned by an old bar buddy that got tired of wrenching for someone else and he admits it's hard to find good help because he can't pay mech wages. He is constantly training new guys to work in the pit while he works up top but he will let you stand there and watch so I know no scams are being pulled. He is the only quick lube in town and it's his lively hood, he can't afford to mess up.

I take in my own oil/filter and he charges me $25. When I take my Sierra in I always take a couple shop towels and have them cover the front drive shaft when they remove the filter so it don't leak all over my drive way when I get it hone.

Hearing all the bad things here about quick lubes I feel lucky to have him.


Last edited by Duffyjr; 06/09/18 04:50 AM.

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Re: j [Re: Ursatdx] #4781994
06/09/18 08:22 AM
06/09/18 08:22 AM
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Georgia
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Originally Posted By: Ursatdx
The 2003 Grand Cherokee takes 6 qts with either the 4.0L or the 4.7L.
You are correct.

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