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#4780130 - 06/07/18 01:10 PM I need a truck and am not brand biased
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Registered: 03/02/13
Posts: 4623
Loc: The Midwest
I had a house built on 5 acres and my GTI and the 4X8' trailer I have doesn't cut it. Plus I want something that can tow a larger trailer such as a boat, travel trailer??

I test drove 3 new trucks in the past week: A 2018 F150 4X4 3.5L V6 Ecoboost single cab with an 8' bed.
A 2019 Ram 1500 4X4 5.7L Hemi V8 crew cab with a 5'7" bed.
And lastly a 2018 Chevy Silverado 1500 4X4 with the 6.2L V8, crew cab and a 6.5' bed.

The Ram rode Very nice, has the best interior and the best transmission of the three. The 5.7' bed is a joke.
The Chevy 6.2L V8 is a great engine backed by a crummy transmission.

I doubt I would really ever need an extended or crew cab however.
The 2018 Ford 3.5L Ecoboost now has port and direct injection. The truck felt like a rocket ship and has all I want in a truck, minus the tow mirrors.
I'm seriously thinking about this Ford:

https://www.dutros.com/new/Ford/2018-Ford-F-150-338a1ab70a0e0adf066f1de5f30f9466.htm?searchDepth=3:14







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#4780135 - 06/07/18 01:17 PM Re: I need a truck and am not brand biased [Re: skyactiv]
JohnnyJohnson Offline


Registered: 10/22/09
Posts: 3008
Loc: Wet side WA
Way more money than I paid for my 2006 Duramax including my tax and license.
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#4780138 - 06/07/18 01:18 PM Re: I need a truck and am not brand biased [Re: skyactiv]
dogememe Offline


Registered: 04/15/17
Posts: 804
Loc: SF BAY AREA, CA
Regular cab trucks are rare, so it's nice to see that one (might be) purchased smile Have you looked at the Chevy Silverado 2500HD? About the same price and you get a V8 without start-stop [censored], and the transmission should be better.


Edited by dogememe (06/07/18 01:18 PM)
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#4780146 - 06/07/18 01:24 PM Re: I need a truck and am not brand biased [Re: skyactiv]
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Registered: 12/08/06
Posts: 8326
Loc: Illinois
That's a LOT of coin for a regular cab 1/2 ton, and not even an XLT. A $2600 upcharge for the 3.5... yikes!

Unless you're planning on driving it until the wheels fall off, you'll take it in the neck on your resale value. There is simply not much demand for used regular cab 1/2 ton trucks that aren't cheap.
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#4780150 - 06/07/18 01:28 PM Re: I need a truck and am not brand biased [Re: skyactiv]
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Registered: 05/05/12
Posts: 953
Loc: Rio Rancho, NM
Look at the maintenance schedule of a Ford Ecoboost. I recently did for an older F150 and was very impressed. Can't speak for the newer ones. Ford engineering improved after purchasing Volvo years ago. I've always been a fan of Japanese vehicles, but Ford has come a long ways! Also, note the cost of water pumps and other maintenance parts; availability. I would look at the pros and cons of each. Whatever makes you happy! Good luck in your search.



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#4780152 - 06/07/18 01:31 PM Re: I need a truck and am not brand biased [Re: mrsilv04]
Quattro Pete Offline


Registered: 10/30/02
Posts: 36083
Loc: Great Lakes
Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
That's a LOT of coin for a regular cab 1/2 ton, and not even an XLT. A $2600 upcharge for the 3.5... yikes!
Are you looking at the window sticker or actual price on dealer website. It is listed on dealer website for $34.7K, and I'm sure you can still talk them down more.
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#4780153 - 06/07/18 01:31 PM Re: I need a truck and am not brand biased [Re: mrsilv04]
maxdustington Offline


Registered: 01/21/17
Posts: 1017
Loc: Toronna
Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
That's a LOT of coin for a regular cab 1/2 ton, and not even an XLT. A $2600 upcharge for the 3.5... yikes!

Unless you're planning on driving it until the wheels fall off, you'll take it in the neck on your resale value. There is simply not much demand for used regular cab 1/2 ton trucks that aren't cheap.


There is always demand for work trucks. If the PO keeps it for a while and takes care of it, the depreciation will not be a big deal.
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#4780155 - 06/07/18 01:37 PM Re: I need a truck and am not brand biased [Re: skyactiv]
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Registered: 12/22/13
Posts: 2077
Loc: socal
I like the Chevy, but doesn’t matter what I like. Get the truck u like the best for you. Wow, they are pricey
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#4780161 - 06/07/18 01:47 PM Re: I need a truck and am not brand biased [Re: JohnnyJohnson]
CKN Offline


Registered: 10/14/14
Posts: 3830
Loc: Utah
Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
Way more money than I paid for my 2006 Duramax including my tax and license.


And candy bars cost more than they did in '06.

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#4780168 - 06/07/18 01:53 PM Re: I need a truck and am not brand biased [Re: skyactiv]
MNgopher Offline


Registered: 09/17/02
Posts: 4082
Loc: Lakeville, MN
The dealer price is under $35k... For a truck with the upgraded engine (and payload in Ford's case), that is OK I guess. That being said I bought a nearly fully loaded XLT Supercrew 4x4 with the 2.7 for $37k out the door... The XLT's typically get higher incentives, but good luck finding a regular cab 8 foot bed!

In all honesty, they are all decent trucks. They all have their quirks. I'd buy any of them and drive it home tonight. I bought my Ford as it was exactly what I wanted. I test drove the others, and they all had lots to like too...

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#4780174 - 06/07/18 01:55 PM Re: I need a truck and am not brand biased [Re: skyactiv]
glock19 Offline


Registered: 03/12/13
Posts: 790
Loc: Virginia
I checked out the big 3 when I bought my Sierra. I liked the powertrains in all 3 (I was looking at all V8's). My decision came down to the fact that I didn't like the Ford's interior, and I didn't trust the RAM's reliability.
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#4780180 - 06/07/18 01:59 PM Re: I need a truck and am not brand biased [Re: skyactiv]
Phishin Offline


Registered: 05/01/12
Posts: 2471
Loc: Indiana
What didn't you like about the transmission mated to the 6.2L? Just wondering. My brother is a professional fishing guide (he fishes for Muskies on Lake St. Claire). He has had two Silverado with the 6.2L (He's now in a 2017). He tows a big 21' boat 40k miles a year. He hasn't had a single problem with his transmissions, and as long as it's in "tow mode", he thinks it's pretty nice.

But if you like that Ford, here is the truck I just purchased. 2018 Silverado 3500HD (with the 6.0L gas....which does NOT use cylinder deactivation). The transmission on this truck is VERY heavy duty, and it's a 6-speed. I love this truck. I paid $37.6k, $40k OTD.

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#4780190 - 06/07/18 02:10 PM Re: I need a truck and am not brand biased [Re: skyactiv]
SatinSilver Offline


Registered: 01/24/08
Posts: 10481
Loc: OH
Originally Posted By: skyactiv
I had a house built on 5 acres and my GTI and the 4X8' trailer I have doesn't cut it.


Simple, rent the Home Depot truck as needed. It is ultra cheap and kind of fun. Plus no worries or commitments.

Otherwise, I'd be looking at a used truck maybe from the state surplus auction.

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#4780203 - 06/07/18 02:23 PM Re: I need a truck and am not brand biased [Re: skyactiv]
Leo99 Offline


Registered: 03/30/14
Posts: 3150
Loc: NJ
That's a really nice burgundy color.
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#4780208 - 06/07/18 02:26 PM Re: I need a truck and am not brand biased [Re: skyactiv]
supton Offline


Registered: 11/09/08
Posts: 12319
Loc: NH
Can you define your goals better? Is it to haul 4x8 sheets of plywood? Trash to the dump? Drive in bad weather? Etc. Does it have to be new? What if it rains while moving stuff?

My 4x8 trailer disappears behind my truck. It's way too small (if not comical) back there. But you know what? Truck beds are at a ridiculous height. When I bought a new fridge I used my trailer--even if I didn't have the shell on the back, it would have been too much of a pain. And renting a truck for me is a pain: it's 30 miles to Lowes. Sure I could drive back and get my car. But it's not a 5 minute thing like some make it out.

I decided my truck was too sketchy in snow without snow tires. YMMV, but any future trucks will very quickly get snows (additional expense), 2WD or 4WD. But once I got snows I found I could leave it in 2WD much more often. Which is another point: my truck has a primitive part time 4WD. Once I hit pavement it needs to be turned off. Heck I get binding on snow when I go to park. I accept it for what it is, but honestly, since I don't off-road, it's really not the best for me.

Lastly, towing, I decided that since I'd always have family with me, the numbers kinda/sorta wind up around 5k max towing. On a half ton. Taking into account passengers, junk in the truck, and GCWR. YMMV, but that was my gut feeling. You with a 2WD RCLB and no kids would be in a different spot.


Edited by supton (06/07/18 02:33 PM)
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