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I need a truck and am not brand biased #4780130
06/07/18 01:10 PM
06/07/18 01:10 PM
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The Midwest
skyactiv Offline OP
skyactiv  Offline OP
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I had a house built on 5 acres and my GTI and the 4X8' trailer I have doesn't cut it. Plus I want something that can tow a larger trailer such as a boat, travel trailer??

I test drove 3 new trucks in the past week: A 2018 F150 4X4 3.5L V6 Ecoboost single cab with an 8' bed.
A 2019 Ram 1500 4X4 5.7L Hemi V8 crew cab with a 5'7" bed.
And lastly a 2018 Chevy Silverado 1500 4X4 with the 6.2L V8, crew cab and a 6.5' bed.

The Ram rode Very nice, has the best interior and the best transmission of the three. The 5.7' bed is a joke.
The Chevy 6.2L V8 is a great engine backed by a crummy transmission.

I doubt I would really ever need an extended or crew cab however.
The 2018 Ford 3.5L Ecoboost now has port and direct injection. The truck felt like a rocket ship and has all I want in a truck, minus the tow mirrors.
I'm seriously thinking about this Ford:

https://www.dutros.com/new/Ford/2018-Ford-F-150-338a1ab70a0e0adf066f1de5f30f9466.htm?searchDepth=3:14









Wife: 15' Audi A4 quattro 6 speed manual
Me: 13' VW GTI 3 door 6 speed manual
Re: I need a truck and am not brand biased [Re: skyactiv] #4780135
06/07/18 01:17 PM
06/07/18 01:17 PM
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Wet side WA
JohnnyJohnson Online content
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Wet side WA
Way more money than I paid for my 2006 Duramax including my tax and license.


2004 Corolla 125335
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74277
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 74705 4-22-18
Re: I need a truck and am not brand biased [Re: skyactiv] #4780138
06/07/18 01:18 PM
06/07/18 01:18 PM
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SF BAY AREA, CA
dogememe Offline
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SF BAY AREA, CA
Regular cab trucks are rare, so it's nice to see that one (might be) purchased smile Have you looked at the Chevy Silverado 2500HD? About the same price and you get a V8 without start-stop [censored], and the transmission should be better.

Last edited by dogememe; 06/07/18 01:18 PM.

2010 Ford Escape FWD 2.5 ~90K Miles
Currently: Royal Purple 5W-30, Wix 51348
I prefer Royal Purple, Valvoline, Castrol, and O'Reilly Oils.
Re: I need a truck and am not brand biased [Re: skyactiv] #4780146
06/07/18 01:24 PM
06/07/18 01:24 PM
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Illinois
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Illinois
That's a LOT of coin for a regular cab 1/2 ton, and not even an XLT. A $2600 upcharge for the 3.5... yikes!

Unless you're planning on driving it until the wheels fall off, you'll take it in the neck on your resale value. There is simply not much demand for used regular cab 1/2 ton trucks that aren't cheap.


2004 Silverado - on its 3rd Jasper engine in less than one year.
Re: I need a truck and am not brand biased [Re: skyactiv] #4780150
06/07/18 01:28 PM
06/07/18 01:28 PM
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Rio Rancho, NM
Pajero Offline
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Rio Rancho, NM
Look at the maintenance schedule of a Ford Ecoboost. I recently did for an older F150 and was very impressed. Can't speak for the newer ones. Ford engineering improved after purchasing Volvo years ago. I've always been a fan of Japanese vehicles, but Ford has come a long ways! Also, note the cost of water pumps and other maintenance parts; availability. I would look at the pros and cons of each. Whatever makes you happy! Good luck in your search.



Respectfully,

Pajero!


Always remember "Planned obsolescence."

1994 Montero SR 3.5 DOHC, 133,xxx
Fram Ultra/ Snorkel with Pre-filter
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Re: I need a truck and am not brand biased [Re: mrsilv04] #4780152
06/07/18 01:31 PM
06/07/18 01:31 PM
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Great Lakes
Quattro Pete Offline
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Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
That's a LOT of coin for a regular cab 1/2 ton, and not even an XLT. A $2600 upcharge for the 3.5... yikes!
Are you looking at the window sticker or actual price on dealer website. It is listed on dealer website for $34.7K, and I'm sure you can still talk them down more.


'02 530i (Edge 0W-40)
'15 Q5 3.0T (Edge 5W-40)
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Re: I need a truck and am not brand biased [Re: mrsilv04] #4780153
06/07/18 01:31 PM
06/07/18 01:31 PM
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VW Fanboy Island
maxdustington Offline
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VW Fanboy Island
Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
That's a LOT of coin for a regular cab 1/2 ton, and not even an XLT. A $2600 upcharge for the 3.5... yikes!

Unless you're planning on driving it until the wheels fall off, you'll take it in the neck on your resale value. There is simply not much demand for used regular cab 1/2 ton trucks that aren't cheap.


There is always demand for work trucks. If the PO keeps it for a while and takes care of it, the depreciation will not be a big deal.


03 Jetta AWP/09A 205k kms
Edge 0W40 + Mann 719/30
Re: I need a truck and am not brand biased [Re: skyactiv] #4780155
06/07/18 01:37 PM
06/07/18 01:37 PM
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socal
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socal
I like the Chevy, but doesn’t matter what I like. Get the truck u like the best for you. Wow, they are pricey


06 Cadillac Escalade Ext
17 Cadillac ATS (wife)
05 Toyota Camry (daughter)
11 GMC Canyon off-road (daily)
Re: I need a truck and am not brand biased [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4780161
06/07/18 01:47 PM
06/07/18 01:47 PM
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Utah
CKN Offline
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Utah
Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
Way more money than I paid for my 2006 Duramax including my tax and license.


And candy bars cost more than they did in '06.

Re: I need a truck and am not brand biased [Re: skyactiv] #4780168
06/07/18 01:53 PM
06/07/18 01:53 PM
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Lakeville, MN
MNgopher Offline
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Lakeville, MN
The dealer price is under $35k... For a truck with the upgraded engine (and payload in Ford's case), that is OK I guess. That being said I bought a nearly fully loaded XLT Supercrew 4x4 with the 2.7 for $37k out the door... The XLT's typically get higher incentives, but good luck finding a regular cab 8 foot bed!

In all honesty, they are all decent trucks. They all have their quirks. I'd buy any of them and drive it home tonight. I bought my Ford as it was exactly what I wanted. I test drove the others, and they all had lots to like too...

Re: I need a truck and am not brand biased [Re: skyactiv] #4780174
06/07/18 01:55 PM
06/07/18 01:55 PM
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Virginia
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Virginia
I checked out the big 3 when I bought my Sierra. I liked the powertrains in all 3 (I was looking at all V8's). My decision came down to the fact that I didn't like the Ford's interior, and I didn't trust the RAM's reliability.


2017 GMC Sierra SLT Z71 Crew Cab - His
2016 Toyota Highlander Limited - Hers
Re: I need a truck and am not brand biased [Re: skyactiv] #4780180
06/07/18 01:59 PM
06/07/18 01:59 PM
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Posts: 2,525
Indiana
Phishin Offline
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Indiana
What didn't you like about the transmission mated to the 6.2L? Just wondering. My brother is a professional fishing guide (he fishes for Muskies on Lake St. Claire). He has had two Silverado with the 6.2L (He's now in a 2017). He tows a big 21' boat 40k miles a year. He hasn't had a single problem with his transmissions, and as long as it's in "tow mode", he thinks it's pretty nice.

But if you like that Ford, here is the truck I just purchased. 2018 Silverado 3500HD (with the 6.0L gas....which does NOT use cylinder deactivation). The transmission on this truck is VERY heavy duty, and it's a 6-speed. I love this truck. I paid $37.6k, $40k OTD.



2018 Chevy Silerado 3500HD 6.0L Gas: RLI 10w30
2010 Accord-LX K24: MaxLife 5w30 + Torco MPZ
2014 CR-V LX K24: M1 0w30
Re: I need a truck and am not brand biased [Re: skyactiv] #4780190
06/07/18 02:10 PM
06/07/18 02:10 PM
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OH
SatinSilver Offline
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OH
Originally Posted By: skyactiv
I had a house built on 5 acres and my GTI and the 4X8' trailer I have doesn't cut it.


Simple, rent the Home Depot truck as needed. It is ultra cheap and kind of fun. Plus no worries or commitments.

Otherwise, I'd be looking at a used truck maybe from the state surplus auction.

Re: I need a truck and am not brand biased [Re: skyactiv] #4780203
06/07/18 02:23 PM
06/07/18 02:23 PM
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NJ
Leo99 Offline
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NJ
That's a really nice burgundy color.


Without data you're just another person with an opinion. W. E. Deming

2003 Corolla 250,000 miles
2004 Rav4 359,000 miles
2015 Camry 59,000 miles
Re: I need a truck and am not brand biased [Re: skyactiv] #4780208
06/07/18 02:26 PM
06/07/18 02:26 PM
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NH
supton Offline
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NH
Can you define your goals better? Is it to haul 4x8 sheets of plywood? Trash to the dump? Drive in bad weather? Etc. Does it have to be new? What if it rains while moving stuff?

My 4x8 trailer disappears behind my truck. It's way too small (if not comical) back there. But you know what? Truck beds are at a ridiculous height. When I bought a new fridge I used my trailer--even if I didn't have the shell on the back, it would have been too much of a pain. And renting a truck for me is a pain: it's 30 miles to Lowes. Sure I could drive back and get my car. But it's not a 5 minute thing like some make it out.

I decided my truck was too sketchy in snow without snow tires. YMMV, but any future trucks will very quickly get snows (additional expense), 2WD or 4WD. But once I got snows I found I could leave it in 2WD much more often. Which is another point: my truck has a primitive part time 4WD. Once I hit pavement it needs to be turned off. Heck I get binding on snow when I go to park. I accept it for what it is, but honestly, since I don't off-road, it's really not the best for me.

Lastly, towing, I decided that since I'd always have family with me, the numbers kinda/sorta wind up around 5k max towing. On a half ton. Taking into account passengers, junk in the truck, and GCWR. YMMV, but that was my gut feeling. You with a 2WD RCLB and no kids would be in a different spot.

Last edited by supton; 06/07/18 02:33 PM.

2011 Toyota Camry, base, 2.5L/6MT, 169k, hers
2010 Toyota Tundra DC, 4.6L/6AT, 144k, ours
1999 Toyota Camry LE, 2.2L/4AT, 192k, his
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