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Shell API SN Plus #4779887
06/07/18 07:48 AM
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Has anyone come across any information regarding if or when Shell will be reformulating QS and Penz conventional oils to meet the SN Plus spec?


2015 Kia Forte 5 2.0 GDI VML 5w30

2018 Kia Sorento 2.4 GDI Harvest King Full Syn 5w30
Re: Shell API SN Plus [Re: Texican] #4779899
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A quick look on the QS website states the following concerning SN Plus: "The following Quaker State products are all licensed by the American Petroleum Institute as complying with the specifications of the new API SN PLUS category:
Quaker State Ultimate Durability Full Synthetic Motor Oils - SAE 0W-20, SAE 5W-20, SAE 5W-30 and SAE 10W-30
Quaker State Synthetic Blend Motor Oils - SAE 0W-20,SAE 5W-20 and SAE 5W-30.

Nothing on the site suggests that conventional oils meet the SN plus.I would guess that it takes a semi or full synthetic to meet the SN plus spec.


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Re: Shell API SN Plus [Re: Texican] #4779917
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Thought all Valvoline including VWB met SN÷. Of course even conventional oils probably have some group 3.


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Re: Shell API SN Plus [Re: csandste] #4780131
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Originally Posted By: csandste
Thought all Valvoline including VWB met SN÷. Of course even conventional oils probably have some group 3.


I was just looking at the Valvoline site the other day getting some info on the new conventional bottles that say "Daily Protection" and the only ones that say they are a blend are 5w20 and 5w30 but they all say they are SN Plus.

https://sharena21.springcm.com/Public/Do...12-ac162d889bd1


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Re: Shell API SN Plus [Re: Duffyjr] #4780277
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Originally Posted By: Duffyjr
Originally Posted By: csandste
Thought all Valvoline including VWB met SN÷. Of course even conventional oils probably have some group 3.


I was just looking at the Valvoline site the other day getting some info on the new conventional bottles that say "Daily Protection" and the only ones that say they are a blend are 5w20 and 5w30 but they all say they are SN Plus.

https://sharena21.springcm.com/Public/Do...12-ac162d889bd1


Interesting. Daily protection 5-20 and 5-30 list Noack and TBN, but no HTHS. MaxLife shows HTHS but not Noack and TBN.


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Re: Shell API SN Plus [Re: Texican] #4780430
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Seriously I think they are putting you guys on soon we'll be waiting on SN+ .2 of course that'll add about another $10 a Jug.


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Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
Seriously I think they are putting you guys on soon we'll be waiting on SN+ .2 of course that'll add about another $10 a Jug.




Periods do help.


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Re: Shell API SN Plus [Re: csandste] #4780632
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Originally Posted By: csandste
Thought all Valvoline including VWB met SN÷. Of course even conventional oils probably have some group 3.


I noticed that VWB was SN+ approved, that’s why I was wondering if Shell would follow with their conventional oils.


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Re: Shell API SN Plus [Re: JohnnyJohnson] #4780913
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Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
Seriously I think they are putting you guys on soon we'll be waiting on SN+ .2 of course that'll add about another $10 a Jug.


Going to need a new acronym, VDP20.


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