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#4779503 - 06/06/18 07:22 PM How many hours is a Fram Ultra good for?
jongies3 Offline


Registered: 03/11/16
Posts: 916
Loc: MT
We all know they're good for 20k miles on an odometer, but what does that equate to in hours? I have an Ultra on my Kubota diesel front end loader installed last October. Kubota recommends a 100 hour oil change interval, and it'll probably take at least two years to rack up 100 hours on it. Should the filter be changed then or go another 100 (or more?)
Tractor is ran at a consistent RPM of 2000 when in use, and is always brought up to full operating temperature each run cycle so this is probably an easy job for the oil and filter I would think. Oil used is Rotella synthetic and it holds 4.5 quarts in the sump.
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#4779510 - 06/06/18 07:28 PM Re: How many hours is a Fram Ultra good for? [Re: jongies3]
ZeeOSix Offline


Registered: 07/22/10
Posts: 18254
Loc: PNW
Based on the constant 2000 RPM, I'd use a speed of 60 MPH for the equivalent mileage calculation. 20,000 miles at 60 MPH would take 333 hrs. If you ran it 200~250 hours I'd say you'd be plenty safe.

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#4779513 - 06/06/18 07:32 PM Re: How many hours is a Fram Ultra good for? [Re: jongies3]
SubieRubyRoo Offline


Registered: 05/14/12
Posts: 1263
Loc: Winchester, Indiana
Well, I did a little digging, and the gov't seems to think the average overall speed of all vehicles is around 32mph. That means 20k would be roughly 600 hours, but I'd say change it somewhere short of that.

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#4779515 - 06/06/18 07:34 PM Re: How many hours is a Fram Ultra good for? [Re: jongies3]
ZeeOSix Offline


Registered: 07/22/10
Posts: 18254
Loc: PNW
Running it 300 hrs would be 6 years at his use rate.

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#4779519 - 06/06/18 07:36 PM Re: How many hours is a Fram Ultra good for? [Re: jongies3]
bullwinkle Offline


Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 7837
Loc: Cincinnati, OH, USA
Normally Ford's calculations are 25 miles=1 hour, so that would mean good for 800 hours. I wouldn't push one that far right away, I would go 200 hours & cut it open & see what the inside looks like. The one I ran 19,600 miles looked almost brand new inside, it could have gone 40K (clean gas engine, xB in my sig).
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#4779528 - 06/06/18 07:41 PM Re: How many hours is a Fram Ultra good for? [Re: jongies3]
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I'm running them x2.. 15-20k
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#4779637 - 06/06/18 09:10 PM Re: How many hours is a Fram Ultra good for? [Re: jongies3]
rollinpete Offline


Registered: 03/20/17
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Loc: West Ma.
Should be good for a year.
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#4779660 - 06/06/18 09:48 PM Re: How many hours is a Fram Ultra good for? [Re: bullwinkle]
jongies3 Offline


Registered: 03/11/16
Posts: 916
Loc: MT
Originally Posted By: bullwinkle
Normally Ford's calculations are 25 miles=1 hour, so that would mean good for 800 hours. I wouldn't push one that far right away, I would go 200 hours & cut it open & see what the inside looks like. The one I ran 19,600 miles looked almost brand new inside, it could have gone 40K (clean gas engine, xB in my sig).

Yeah I imagine mine will look pretty dirty inside. Oil turned black almost instantly after I fired it up and rechecked the level. Gotta love diesels! Lol
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#4779677 - 06/06/18 10:12 PM Re: How many hours is a Fram Ultra good for? [Re: jongies3]
CT8 Offline


Registered: 10/09/14
Posts: 11517
Loc: Idaho
I Year like the oil if minimally used.
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#4779784 - 06/07/18 04:51 AM Re: How many hours is a Fram Ultra good for? [Re: jongies3]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 30171
Loc: NY
I'd can the hour idea and go with 2 years.
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#4779849 - 06/07/18 07:07 AM Re: How many hours is a Fram Ultra good for? [Re: jongies3]
ZZman Offline


Registered: 03/17/08
Posts: 5911
Loc: Michigan
The filter and oil spread over 2 years (100 hours) is cheap. Change both then.
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#4779900 - 06/07/18 08:10 AM Re: How many hours is a Fram Ultra good for? [Re: jongies3]
WyrTwister Offline


Registered: 01/13/13
Posts: 1750
Loc: Texas
I agree , cheap insurance .
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#4779924 - 06/07/18 08:39 AM Re: How many hours is a Fram Ultra good for? [Re: jongies3]
BrocLuno Offline


Registered: 09/06/15
Posts: 5709
Loc: Kalifornia Kollective
250 hrs is the norm for off road equipment. 1 or 2 years for both oil and filter. Filter could go longer, but since you are in there anyway, might as well do it ...
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#4779970 - 06/07/18 09:23 AM Re: How many hours is a Fram Ultra good for? [Re: jongies3]
Spitter Offline


Registered: 06/02/18
Posts: 45
Loc: Kentucky
I follow the rule of not leaving used oil in an engine for over a year regardless of hours or miles. Im sure your owners manual will say "or one year whatever comes first". In that case i would use cheaper oil and filter or shop for better stuff at a discount.
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#4779997 - 06/07/18 10:14 AM Re: How many hours is a Fram Ultra good for? [Re: jongies3]
goodtimes Offline


Registered: 12/08/10
Posts: 2989
Loc: california
Water in oil may be something, the oil has to get to the temperature. My Chev Volt runs very little on gas, and the OLM counts down to 2 years max regardless of use. So GM thinks 2 years is a limit on oil. A Frantz would be a good option on something like this diesel tractor. Clean up that oil and takes out water .

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