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Tesla 3 out-selling MB, Audi, BMW, Lexus mid size #4779145
06/06/18 12:41 PM
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mightymousetech Offline OP
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Tesla Model 3 out-selling Mercedes, Audi, BMW, Lexus in mid-sized premium auto segment.



http://www.starkinsider.com/2018/06/tren...to-segment.html

https://insideevs.com/tesla-model-3-sales-may-2018-u-s/

Tesla delivered 6250 Model 3 sedans in May 2018, and a total of 9220 vehicles.

Last edited by mightymousetech; 06/06/18 12:44 PM.

Mighty Mouse Tech
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Re: Tesla 3 out-selling MB, Audi, BMW, Lexus mid size [Re: mightymousetech] #4779174
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Re: Tesla 3 out-selling MB, Audi, BMW, Lexus mid size [Re: mightymousetech] #4779186
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Statistics can be twisted to confirm any point.


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Re: Tesla 3 out-selling MB, Audi, BMW, Lexus mid size [Re: mightymousetech] #4779188
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Model S and X dominate the luxury segment in a lot of countries, Model 3 might follow the same foot steps.


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Re: Tesla 3 out-selling MB, Audi, BMW, Lexus mid size [Re: PimTac] #4779198
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mightymousetech Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: PimTac
Statistics can be twisted to confirm any point.


Tesla Model 3 outsells MB C class, BMW 3 series, Audi A4 and Lexus IS in the US as of last month. How are you denying that? It is not even statistics?!?

Last edited by mightymousetech; 06/06/18 01:29 PM.

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Re: Tesla 3 out-selling MB, Audi, BMW, Lexus mid size [Re: mightymousetech] #4779203
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I think we are up to 5 at the office now. They are really sharp. I'm not totally sold on the front end. Because they don't need radiator air flow its just this blocky looking section in the bumper. Other than they they are beautiful cars. I really like the deep blue.

Some people will point out the issues they're having... sure lets just slam them and not allow for anything new. When is the last time a new car company came around?


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Re: Tesla 3 out-selling MB, Audi, BMW, Lexus mid size [Re: mightymousetech] #4779234
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Originally Posted By: mightymousetech
Originally Posted By: PimTac
Statistics can be twisted to confirm any point.


Tesla Model 3 outsells MB C class, BMW 3 series, Audi A4 and Lexus IS in the US as of last month. How are you denying that? It is not even statistics?!?

The "out-selling" headline is based on deliveries, but realistically these Tesla sales happened a number of months/years prior when customers made their non-refundable deposits. One could argue that the number of Tesla deliveries in May was artificially high because of manufacturing problems that prevented these deliveries from taking place in April and earlier months. If you had taken an average for April and May, Mercedes C-Class would have been on top.

Still, if Tesla continues ramping up as quickly as they are, they're definitely going to be in top spot.


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Re: Tesla 3 out-selling MB, Audi, BMW, Lexus mid size [Re: mightymousetech] #4779237
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Tesla only reports global, not US numbers.


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Re: Tesla 3 out-selling MB, Audi, BMW, Lexus mid size [Re: mightymousetech] #4779238
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People buy those cars to show off. Not because they are better.


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Re: Tesla 3 out-selling MB, Audi, BMW, Lexus mid size [Re: CT8] #4779242
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Originally Posted By: CT8
People buy those cars to show off. Not because they are better.


Are you sure they're not better than the all electric 3 series? What about the all electric C-class?

Haters gonna hate happy


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Re: Tesla 3 out-selling MB, Audi, BMW, Lexus mid size [Re: mightymousetech] #4779281
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I am certainly not a hater. I sincerely hope Musk succeeds in building a successful company.
However, there is a lot of cause for doubt, and if forced to bet on the outcome, it doesn't exactly look rosy.
IMO this is a company that people invest in more from emotion than logic. The company is teetering and needs a huge cash influx. The flame throwers smacked of desperation. I like Elon Musk and his Barnumesque image but often wonder, isn't building a car company from scratch (let alone an all-electric luxury car company) a full time job? Why the need to peddle Space X? Common sense (I know, it's dead as the dodo in 2018) would require one to question the wisdom of this two-pronged approach.

Re: Tesla 3 out-selling MB, Audi, BMW, Lexus mid size [Re: mightymousetech] #4779282
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Not quite the "MSRP $35,000" iterations Mr. Musk has so fervently pitched.
Upside is former UAW GM plant in Fremont is finally rolling out some units.

OT: UCLA engineering graduate son just received a job offer from SpaceX.
smile


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Re: Tesla 3 out-selling MB, Audi, BMW, Lexus mid size [Re: Y_K] #4779291
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Originally Posted By: Y_K
Tesla only reports global, not US numbers.
The Model 3 is only sold in the US and Canada


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Re: Tesla 3 out-selling MB, Audi, BMW, Lexus mid size [Re: Quattro Pete] #4779302
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: mightymousetech
Originally Posted By: PimTac
Statistics can be twisted to confirm any point.

Tesla Model 3 outsells MB C class, BMW 3 series, Audi A4 and Lexus IS in the US as of last month. How are you denying that? It is not even statistics?!?

The "out-selling" headline is based on deliveries, but realistically these Tesla sales happened a number of months/years prior when customers made their non-refundable deposits. One could argue that the number of Tesla deliveries in May was artificially high because of manufacturing problems that prevented these deliveries from taking place in April and earlier months. If you had taken an average for April and May, Mercedes C-Class would have been on top.
Still, if Tesla continues ramping up as quickly as they are, they're definitely going to be in top spot.


Right-on! Mercedes C class is selling based on the name, I had an E350 and always looked at the C class as a wanna be. Perhaps now they have improved, but to me the MB qualities appear starting at the E class.

Last edited by Pelican; 06/06/18 02:46 PM.
Re: Tesla 3 out-selling MB, Audi, BMW, Lexus mid size [Re: CT8] #4779305
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Originally Posted By: CT8
People buy those cars to show off. Not because they are better.
One could argue that people buy cars like MB and BMW to show off as well. smile


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