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"New" Car with rusted parts normal? #4778270
06/05/18 02:11 PM
06/05/18 02:11 PM
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San Antonio, TX
Datarock Offline OP
Datarock  Offline OP
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San Antonio, TX
On Memorial day I purchased a "New" 2017 Kia Forte S. It had been used as a loaner/demo vehicle but was sold as new on the paperwork and had approx. 1700 miles on it.

As the car had been sitting for about a year or longer and because I am one of those that likes to remove the oil at approx 1500 miles on a new car to remove metal shavings from the engine breaking in, I replaced the oil today with Conventional oil and I will begin the synthetic change at the first recommended interval of 7,500 miles. While under the car, I found what I believe is the exhaust pipe/flange that connects to the intake manifold and it was all rusted up. When I sent this photo as a text to my salesperson, he inquired with a mechanic who stated "it will happen on all cars just from the moisture it's bare metal."
I was hoping to get the thoughts from this amazing community.
Thanks,
Ron



2017 Kia Forte S - PP 5W-30

2018 Kia Niro Hybrid - Magnatec 5W-30 (Will be switching to PP 5W-20 next change)
Re: "New" Car with rusted parts normal? [Re: Datarock] #4778273
06/05/18 02:13 PM
06/05/18 02:13 PM
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Wisconsin
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Wisconsin
Normal.

You bought at 1700 miles: and that exhaust manifold looked like that when it had 0 miles.

As you were informed, that's a chunk of bare cast iron. The humidity in the air alone will cause the surface to rust.


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Re: "New" Car with rusted parts normal? [Re: Datarock] #4778276
06/05/18 02:15 PM
06/05/18 02:15 PM
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OH
SatinSilver Offline
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OH
As Normal as a fat guy eating cake. smile

Re: "New" Car with rusted parts normal? [Re: Datarock] #4778277
06/05/18 02:15 PM
06/05/18 02:15 PM
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Phoenix, Arizona - USA
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That's just a protective oxidation coating, and is normal. With the kind of heat cycling that part goes through, it is highly unlikely that any kind of rust is going to cause any problems.


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Re: "New" Car with rusted parts normal? [Re: SatinSilver] #4778279
06/05/18 02:19 PM
06/05/18 02:19 PM
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Massachusetts
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Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
As Normal as a fat guy eating cake. smile

Hey now, don't make fun of me!! Now let me go check on my rusted cake making spoon! Its bare metal you know!!


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Re: "New" Car with rusted parts normal? [Re: Datarock] #4778286
06/05/18 02:24 PM
06/05/18 02:24 PM
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Nokesville, VA
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I'll bet the edges of the brake rotors are rusted, too.

Re: "New" Car with rusted parts normal? [Re: Datarock] #4778288
06/05/18 02:27 PM
06/05/18 02:27 PM
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Anaheim, CA
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Anaheim, CA
The axle has some rust too. I hope you got it at a good discount.


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Re: "New" Car with rusted parts normal? [Re: Datarock] #4778302
06/05/18 02:37 PM
06/05/18 02:37 PM
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Oklahoma
Schmoe Offline
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I hope you got a "new" discount. If you want to see new rust, just look under a F150 at the dealerships.


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Re: "New" Car with rusted parts normal? [Re: Datarock] #4778310
06/05/18 02:43 PM
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San Antonio, TX
Datarock Offline OP
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San Antonio, TX
HAHAHA. Ok guys, got it. It's normal and I need to let it be LOL.

Thank you for your responses. Now I need to go post if I should use 5W-30 or 5W-20 for my south Texas climate. Car calls for either.
HAHA. Kidding. I plan to use 5W-30 Synthetic
Have a great day everyone.
Ron


2017 Kia Forte S - PP 5W-30

2018 Kia Niro Hybrid - Magnatec 5W-30 (Will be switching to PP 5W-20 next change)
Re: "New" Car with rusted parts normal? [Re: Datarock] #4778317
06/05/18 02:49 PM
06/05/18 02:49 PM
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USA
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USA
Looks better than Mazda crush

Re: "New" Car with rusted parts normal? [Re: Datarock] #4778337
06/05/18 03:14 PM
06/05/18 03:14 PM
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Indiana
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Indiana
When I was a Tech at a Chevy/olds dealer I did some PDIs on new cars. The rust on parts like that is normal. I have seen cars with 3 miles on them with rusty manifolds. Totally normal.

Congrats on the vehicle, how are you liking it so far?

Re: "New" Car with rusted parts normal? [Re: 5AcresAndAFool] #4778349
06/05/18 03:25 PM
06/05/18 03:25 PM
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San Antonio, TX
Datarock Offline OP
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San Antonio, TX
I really love it. There is a rattle coming from the plastic cover that is under the driver side dash that I can't seem to get rid of. I am working with the dealer now to try to rectify it. They drove it for approx 11 miles (without me in the car) and could not duplicate it, but my wife and I both hear it and I know exactly where its coming from now, at the time I was simply guessing.

Other then that, I had a 2008 Nissan Versa that I parted for this guy. The MPG is much nicer and because it has the tech package, which I wanted with a kid on the way, it has the auto braking, keeps me in the lane, rear traffic alerts and whole list of safety features that the Versa did not have lol.
So far so good.
Ron


2017 Kia Forte S - PP 5W-30

2018 Kia Niro Hybrid - Magnatec 5W-30 (Will be switching to PP 5W-20 next change)
Re: "New" Car with rusted parts normal? [Re: Datarock] #4778372
06/05/18 04:00 PM
06/05/18 04:00 PM
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Outer Banks, NC
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Outer Banks, NC
By the post title I thought you were referring to body panels, like the 70's and 80's Fiats and Alfa Romeos that started rusting as soon as they hit the import docks in Baltimore.


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Re: "New" Car with rusted parts normal? [Re: Datarock] #4778373
06/05/18 04:01 PM
06/05/18 04:01 PM
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Toronto
PeterPolyol Offline
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Toronto
Um, bare cast iron is going to rust, no matter what.


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Re: "New" Car with rusted parts normal? [Re: Datarock] #4778399
06/05/18 04:42 PM
06/05/18 04:42 PM
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NY
demarpaint Offline
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NY
Perfectly normal. Take a look at the driveshaft on a new Jeep Wrangler if the owner didn't rustproof it.


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