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2 Stroke oil.....What's the difference ?? #4778257
06/05/18 01:55 PM
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I wasn't sure which forum to post this in.........

I always thought 2 stroke oil was all the same, marine, chains saw, mowers, motorcycle,, weed eaters etc....

What IS the Difference ??

Re: 2 Stroke oil.....What's the difference ?? [Re: fins] #4778472
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Originally Posted By: fins
I wasn't sure which forum to post this in.........

I always thought 2 stroke oil was all the same, marine, chains saw, mowers, motorcycle,, weed eaters etc....

What IS the Difference ??


Lots of info out there just by Googling it.
Here's one I found quickly.
http://www.greenhulk.net/forums/showthread.php?t=128249


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Re: 2 Stroke oil.....What's the difference ?? [Re: fins] #4786624
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As many differences in 2T oils as there are in 4 stroke.
Ash, ashless, conventional, synthetic, TC, TD, smokeless, great smelling smoke....
And the latest, multivis 2T oils... Valvoline introduced a 10w40 2T oil, which makes no sense to me at all, but I guess whatever the market will bear.
Do a little research, lots of options, some solid science in 2T oil technology.


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Re: 2 Stroke oil.....What's the difference ?? [Re: beanoil] #4789677
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Originally Posted By: beanoil
Valvoline introduced a 10w40 2T oil, which makes no sense to me at all, but I guess whatever the market will bear.


??? Maybe Valvoline wanted to say it is SAE40 two stroke oil (Usually they are SAE30)...


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Re: 2 Stroke oil.....What's the difference ?? [Re: Kamele0N] #4790132
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Originally Posted By: Kamele0N
Originally Posted By: beanoil
Valvoline introduced a 10w40 2T oil, which makes no sense to me at all, but I guess whatever the market will bear.


??? Maybe Valvoline wanted to say it is SAE40 two stroke oil (Usually they are SAE30)...
WAG it is for Autolube type oil injection?


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Re: 2 Stroke oil.....What's the difference ?? [Re: fins] #4791018
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Ashless for outboards and lawn boy 2 cycles and snowmobiles
Low ash for air cooled chainsaws,blowers,string trimmers,pole saws,mantis tiller


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Re: 2 Stroke oil.....What's the difference ?? [Re: fins] #4791209
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Add ashless 2 cycle for Toro snowblowers.

Ashless will say TC-W3 on the label. All marine outboard uses the same. It's because those engines run cooler than other 2 cycle engines.

I know people that have run regular 2 cycle in Toro snowblowers for years without a problem but it's suppose to gum up the internal parts. I wouldn't do it.

Which ever you use, I'd prefer synthetic, and at 32:1, max 50:1.

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Re: 2 Stroke oil.....What's the difference ?? [Re: fins] #4805337
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Pennzoil used to have info on their web regarding air cooled vs water cooled. Different additive packages for different operating conditions.


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Re: 2 Stroke oil.....What's the difference ?? [Re: fins] #4902039
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I believe besides being smokeless and ashless, TCw3 is for water cooled higher hp motors. Greater film strength if I remember properly.


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Re: 2 Stroke oil.....What's the difference ?? [Re: johnachak] #4903628
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Originally Posted by johnachak
I believe besides being smokeless and ashless, TCw3 is for water cooled higher hp motors. Greater film strength if I remember properly.


http://kawtriple.com/mraxl/tips/oil_twostroke.htm


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Re: 2 Stroke oil.....What's the difference ?? [Re: fins] #4905326
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Originally Posted by fins
I wasn't sure which forum to post this in.........

I always thought 2 stroke oil was all the same, marine, chains saw, mowers, motorcycle,, weed eaters etc....

What IS the Difference ??



You need to look at the rating bodies and their specs. ISO, API, and JASO.

Start here: EGD specs


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Re: 2 Stroke oil.....What's the difference ?? [Re: fins] #4906140
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I use JASO FD in everything except outboards, those get name brand tc-w3

I dont have a snowmobile.


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Re: 2 Stroke oil.....What's the difference ?? [Re: fins] #4910148
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Me too smile


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Re: 2 Stroke oil.....What's the difference ?? [Re: Gillsy] #4911636
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Originally Posted by Gillsy
Pennzoil used to have info on their web regarding air cooled vs water cooled. Different additive packages for different operating conditions.
+1


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Re: 2 Stroke oil.....What's the difference ?? [Re: jakewells] #4913478
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Originally Posted by jakewells
Ashless for outboards and lawn boy 2 cycles and snowmobiles
Low ash for air cooled chainsaws,blowers,string trimmers,pole saws,mantis tiller


Snowmobiles use low ash, not ashless


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