Originally Posted By: PimTac
Originally Posted By: nap
According to this
https://www.topspeed.com/cars/toyota/2019-toyota-corolla-hatchback-ar180519.html
we'll soon have a dual, port+direct injected engine in an economy car.
Turbo seems to be out of fashion too.
Toyota never really jumped on the turbo bandwagon to begin with.
Right, they don't have the skill to pull it off. Even their new high compression Skyactiv clone engine was recalled weeks after launch for major, critical manufacturing defects (take the hint people). It's all entirely 100% their fault too, and not even for a noble cause. Toyota has brutally stretched themselves in the manforce department (starting 15-20yrs ago), all in the name of
greed and grandiose schemes to
dominate the market. Like a guy at the bar, totally wasted and zooted up on a couple schlings, the corporate entity felt
'like the greatest, most invincible motehrbuddy to ever walk the earth!! I CAN DO ANYTHING AND THEY'LL STILL BEG TO KISS MY BUTT!! REEEEEEEE!' Yep
that brand of wasted arrogance.
Characterizations aside, and with their condition of tumorous corporate growth, Toyota has for decades now been contracting major engineering to various external sources. This is the real reason for getting around more than most, with "joint venturing" with Yamaha, Subaru, BMW, GM, Tesla, Mazda and the rest of them- to fill their own engineering holes and acquire IP from them. The marketing perspective maintains the inverse fairy tale that those companies need Toyota, when Toyota really needs them.
Example, any decent engine they've ever made was essentially a Yamaha- from JZ to GR, 2ZZ to 3S-GE, it's all Yamaha. Basically, all of the GE series and some of the FE series. This also speaks to why Toyota is such a technological laggard, they don't have much of an in-house engineering team (Full-time, inhouse engineering team is a drag on the payroll apparently), and the risks they take with accelerated design cycles and half-baked work from sub-contractors are real threats to the masquerade of 'superiority' that they've been dumping several Billions into maintaining for over 2 decades, and so they tread very lightly with new engineering. It's not that turbos are less reliable, other than in theory, it's just that Toyota feels/knows that they can't do them reliably, or do DI without reverting back to PFI with their clear lack of adeptitude combined with their greed for fat profit margins. The Toyota luddites never seem to remember that there are reliable examples of all of the technologies that they're still scared of.