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Inspection collusion? #4777515
06/04/18 06:15 PM
06/04/18 06:15 PM
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Hudson, NH
LeakySeals Offline OP
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Hudson, NH
Finally fixed all the problems (known to me) on the 2003 project Maxima. Time to register and get it inspected. All the places locally that inspect also sell services. So I chose Sullivan tire, been there for tires on the Escalade. In goes the Maxima and up on the lift. 5 mins.. 10 mins.. 15 mins.. What is he doing? I took a peek. He's up in the wheel wells jiggling stuff. 20 mins, 30 mins.. Ugh..

The service dude comes to me with the bad news. Rejected for a bad passenger side wheel bearing. $400 to repair. I'm handy, fixed maybe 15 different problems with that car. From rusted radiator supports to numerous evap and misfire CEL's. But this repair is not easy. There is no complete hub assy like some vehicles. The bearing must be pressed into the knuckle, gotta have the tools. I can't do it, so I'm at the mercy of Sullivan.

When I got home I lifted the car, wiggled the tire around. I don't feel or see anything obvious. However, this car spent 3 years in the mud, so the rotors are pretty rusty. I cleaned them up and put new pads all around. Hoping the surface rust will wear down. So they do make a bit of noise turning the wheels. Could he be confusing that? Has a 2015 sticker on the window. I figure he saw that. Saw everything else.

There wasn't one inspection station I could find that doesn't profit from finding, or claiming something is wrong. I feel like I don't have an argument, like these places have all the control. Or maybe its a legit problem, and there is no "collusion"


06 Escalade 6.0L LQ9 AWD 165k M1 5w30
03 Maxima 3.5L POS 152k ST HM 10w30
Re: Inspection collusion? [Re: LeakySeals] #4777522
06/04/18 06:21 PM
06/04/18 06:21 PM
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North Carolina
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North Carolina
Glad I still have friends "on the inside." I haven't taken more than my registration in for a state inspection in years.

The car is either broken or it isn't. Ask the tech to take you back and show you the issue. He'll either back pedal or try to lie to your face. Either way you've got him. Or there's a legit problem and he'll show you.


"Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead."
Re: Inspection collusion? [Re: LeakySeals] #4777524
06/04/18 06:24 PM
06/04/18 06:24 PM
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Illinois, USA
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Illinois, USA
Here in Illinois, we just have a quick OBD2 emission check and that's all. No safety check for passenger cars or light trucks. Also, only in certain areas of the state.
I have heard it said that in states like yours where a safety inspection is required, that if the tech can't find at least $350.00 worth of repairs required, he's not doing his job.

Re: Inspection collusion? [Re: LeakySeals] #4777531
06/04/18 06:36 PM
06/04/18 06:36 PM
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Lyndhurst NJ
Audios Offline
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Try a different shop, dont say anything about it and see what they come up with.


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Re: Inspection collusion? [Re: LeakySeals] #4777544
06/04/18 06:50 PM
06/04/18 06:50 PM
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Ontario
silverrat Online content
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Ontario
I took my 177k mile 15 year old Civic SiR in for an official Ontario safety inspection before I sold it. The place I took it to basically had carte blanche to require anything they wanted since I was getting the inspection done as a condition of the sale and had a newer car already picked out.

They came back to me with one side marker light that needed to be fixed. I'm very lucky to have found a shop like this, and they are 20 feet from where I work.


2014 Mazda3 Sport Hatch
Long Live the Manual Transmission drive
Re: Inspection collusion? [Re: LeakySeals] #4777581
06/04/18 07:25 PM
06/04/18 07:25 PM
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Missouri
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Missouri
Take the vehicle to your local highway patrol headquarters. They will inspect the vehicle and be in touch with the inspection station if it was illegitimately failed. Thatís what I tell anyone who disagrees when I fail them. I actually encourage them to as some things are still sort of a judgement call as far as Missouriís inspections go.

Re: Inspection collusion? [Re: LeakySeals] #4777585
06/04/18 07:30 PM
06/04/18 07:30 PM
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New England
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New England
I read the rules and a bad wheel bearing is reason to fail. A 2003 vehicle not surprised.

I feel so lucky to have found a trusty (Subie Expert) mechanic who is just plain honest. I am hoping he can work our 2018 VW Tiguan post warranty but he keeps my 2007 MDX going cheaply and honestly.

Collusion so to speak I'd expect showing up at any chain. Maybe establish relationship with a mechanic?

Re: Inspection collusion? [Re: madRiver] #4777625
06/04/18 08:02 PM
06/04/18 08:02 PM
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Massachusetts
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Massachusetts
The whole concept of auto inspections is dogooder feel good stuff.


USA-1
Re: Inspection collusion? [Re: LeakySeals] #4777656
06/04/18 08:36 PM
06/04/18 08:36 PM
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Ontario, Canada
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Ontario, Canada
Back off the pads or take them out and see if you can hear anything then. Maybe the guy had a stethoscope thing to listen to the bearing itself?


07 Focus ZXW, 5spd manual, 210km M1 5W30
18 Outback 2.5 CVT 10km 0W20 "bulk subaru" whatever that is
Re: Inspection collusion? [Re: turtlevette] #4777658
06/04/18 08:38 PM
06/04/18 08:38 PM
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TX
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TX
Originally Posted By: turtlevette
The whole concept of auto inspections is dogooder feel good stuff.


There are some pretty [censored] vehicles on the road. What do you propose to get them off the road? Of course, I might argue that inspections don't seem to be doing it, but that's largely because inspections are easily cheated and nobody is really checking the work.

Re: Inspection collusion? [Re: turtlevette] #4777666
06/04/18 08:42 PM
06/04/18 08:42 PM
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Fort Worth, Texas
clinebarger Online content
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Fort Worth, Texas
Originally Posted By: turtlevette
The whole concept of auto inspections is dogooder feel good stuff.



The concept is to keep unsafe piles of "S" off the road.....


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Re: Inspection collusion? [Re: clinebarger] #4777684
06/04/18 08:58 PM
06/04/18 08:58 PM
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Massachusetts
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Massachusetts
Originally Posted By: clinebarger
Originally Posted By: turtlevette
The whole concept of auto inspections is dogooder feel good stuff.



The concept is to keep unsafe piles of "S" off the road.....


Yep, as predicted you're all libertarian and anti government until the government makes restrictive burdensome laws that put a nickel in your pocket. Somehow that makes you suddenly a fan of government regulation.


USA-1
Re: Inspection collusion? [Re: LeakySeals] #4777720
06/04/18 09:36 PM
06/04/18 09:36 PM
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DFW
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DFW
I've yet to personally see an accident caused by a car in disrepair. Not saying it doesn't happen, but I've yet to see it.

I have, however, seen many an accident caused by "driver error". Whether it's distracted driving or something else, the driver of the vehicle at fault is the cause of the accident in a majority of situations. This is a much bigger issue to me as someone who has two cars and a wife on the road then having old cars on the road which may or may not pass emissions inspections and the like. That's something that my wife can (and often does) see on the road and avoid. It's much harder to see a distracted driver.


Re: Inspection collusion? [Re: Audios] #4777740
06/04/18 09:59 PM
06/04/18 09:59 PM
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Buffalo, NY
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Buffalo, NY
Originally Posted By: Audios
Try a different shop, dont say anything about it and see what they come up with.


I know in NY, if a shop fails the vehicle on it's yearly state inspection, the next shop will see it on the report that's generated.

I hear you though. Busy shops in my area will put the vehicle up on the lift and pull a wheel, but wheel bearings and lots of other items would likely be overlooked.


2017 Ram 1500 4x4, 3.6L. 2016 Nissan Quest SV (Babe magnet IV)
Re: Inspection collusion? [Re: LeakySeals] #4777766
06/04/18 10:54 PM
06/04/18 10:54 PM
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Posts: 313
northern NY
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northern NY
Try a new shop. The small guy that the locals all love. Thatís who you go to for ANYTHING. If his rear end needs kissing then pucker up. These small honest independent shops are a dying breed but thatís who you want especially for those cursed inspections especially the dreaded emissions and CEL. If you find a good one they are often very helpful in getting old cars by rather than lining their pockets. They are sometimes hard to get into but normally worth the wait. Ask around the neighborhood
As for this clown, Bad radiator support, ya sure. whistle. As for those seLed wheel bearings they donít weld themselves together like the old style did will drive you crazy with the nois before they truly fail. If you want to see if itís bad just drive down the street weaving back and forth. The bad one will groan when the side load goes on it then goes away when it comes off. Get away from that place .............

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