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ACEA E4/E7 in a BMW 335d ? #4777457
06/04/18 03:57 PM
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BMW335dpfoff Offline OP
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Hi!
Since I have a about 10 gallons of heavy duty oil ACEA E4/E7 of good quality I thought I might pour it in my Bmw 335d.
The dpf i long gone and so i also the EGR.
Any inputs to it?

Mattias

Re: ACEA E4/E7 in a BMW 335d ? [Re: BMW335dpfoff] #4777468
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E4 / E7 is high SAPS, between 1% to 2%
The E4 TBN is > 12, so this is a heavy additized oil.

Not saying yes or no, just adding a few more data points for people to consider.

DPF would be my big concern, but you say this has been removed.


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Re: ACEA E4/E7 in a BMW 335d ? [Re: BMW335dpfoff] #4777472
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Use a bmw LL01 or LL04. BMW is pretty sensitive with oil types!

Re: ACEA E4/E7 in a BMW 335d ? [Re: BMW335dpfoff] #4777774
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heavy duty oil ACEA E4/E7 of good quality

Well what is it?


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Re: ACEA E4/E7 in a BMW 335d ? [Re: BMW335dpfoff] #4777779
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Id probably stick with an LL-04 oil if it were my 335d.


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Re: ACEA E4/E7 in a BMW 335d ? [Re: BMW335dpfoff] #4777790
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Its Fuchs titan cargo SL 5w-30.

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Originally Posted By: BMW335dpfoff
Its Fuchs titan cargo SL 5w-30.

Wow!! I just looked it up [PDF Link]

It has a TBN of 15.8

And from their web page
Quote:
TITAN CARGO SL SAE 5W-30 is a top performance, extreme fuel economy oil for a variety of commercial vehicle and off highway diesel engines with optimum cold starting and lower oil consumption. TITAN CARGO SL SAE 5W-30 was developed to optimise the reliability and cost effectiveness of vehicles. The fully-synthetic TITAN CARGO SL SAE 5W/30 provides continuous reduction in fuel consumption. This is ensured by reduced friction, rapid oil circulation and extreme wear protection. TITAN CARGO SL SAE 5W-30 demonstrates special cost-effectiveness with extended engine oil change intervals of up to 160,000 km. The special aging stability and the excellent wear protection lead to optimum reliability.


OK, so I would not use it. It's made for a different application, off road diesel engines with OCI up to 160,000KM / 100,000 miles.

A typical light duty diesel engine oil would be a C3 oil with a TBN of about 7 with an OCI of maybe 10,000 to 20,000 miles

I don't think it's worth the risk, different oil, different application.


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Re: ACEA E4/E7 in a BMW 335d ? [Re: BMW335dpfoff] #4777823
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Lol...use it....it will not harm anything (since your DPF is deleted)


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DPF deleted I think you are good to go


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Re: ACEA E4/E7 in a BMW 335d ? [Re: BMW335dpfoff] #4778566
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I'd use it if there were no ULSD in Sweden, but I highly doubt that's the case. wink It'll work, but a very high ash HDEO like that wouldn't be my first choice for that application. E4 options are rather hard to find here.


Plain, simple Garak.

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Originally Posted By: Garak
It'll work, but a very high ash HDEO like that wouldn't be my first choice for that application. E4 options are rather hard to find here.


I agree, an E4 it's not my first choice, however if it was E9 (SA <1%, TBN >7) then I would be very happy to use it.

I'm not saying E4 will kill your engine, but what's wrong with buying the correct BMW LL-04 oil ? Or at least a BMW LL-01 oil.


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