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#4777457 - 06/04/18 04:57 PM ACEA E4/E7 in a BMW 335d ?
BMW335dpfoff Offline


Registered: 06/01/18
Posts: 2
Loc: Sweden
Hi!
Since I have a about 10 gallons of heavy duty oil ACEA E4/E7 of good quality I thought I might pour it in my Bmw 335d.
The dpf i long gone and so i also the EGR.
Any inputs to it?

Mattias

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#4777468 - 06/04/18 05:09 PM Re: ACEA E4/E7 in a BMW 335d ? [Re: BMW335dpfoff]
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Registered: 07/07/15
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E4 / E7 is high SAPS, between 1% to 2%
The E4 TBN is > 12, so this is a heavy additized oil.

Not saying yes or no, just adding a few more data points for people to consider.

DPF would be my big concern, but you say this has been removed.
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#4777472 - 06/04/18 05:11 PM Re: ACEA E4/E7 in a BMW 335d ? [Re: BMW335dpfoff]
Bjornviken Offline


Registered: 12/06/17
Posts: 245
Loc: Finland
Use a bmw LL01 or LL04. BMW is pretty sensitive with oil types!

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#4777774 - 06/04/18 11:04 PM Re: ACEA E4/E7 in a BMW 335d ? [Re: BMW335dpfoff]
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heavy duty oil ACEA E4/E7 of good quality

Well what is it?
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#4777779 - 06/04/18 11:10 PM Re: ACEA E4/E7 in a BMW 335d ? [Re: BMW335dpfoff]
1JZ_E46 Offline


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Id probably stick with an LL-04 oil if it were my 335d.
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#4777790 - 06/04/18 11:31 PM Re: ACEA E4/E7 in a BMW 335d ? [Re: BMW335dpfoff]
BMW335dpfoff Offline


Registered: 06/01/18
Posts: 2
Loc: Sweden
Its Fuchs titan cargo SL 5w-30.

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#4777818 - 06/05/18 12:56 AM Re: ACEA E4/E7 in a BMW 335d ? [Re: BMW335dpfoff]
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Originally Posted By: BMW335dpfoff
Its Fuchs titan cargo SL 5w-30.

Wow!! I just looked it up [PDF Link]

It has a TBN of 15.8

And from their web page
Quote:
TITAN CARGO SL SAE 5W-30 is a top performance, extreme fuel economy oil for a variety of commercial vehicle and off highway diesel engines with optimum cold starting and lower oil consumption. TITAN CARGO SL SAE 5W-30 was developed to optimise the reliability and cost effectiveness of vehicles. The fully-synthetic TITAN CARGO SL SAE 5W/30 provides continuous reduction in fuel consumption. This is ensured by reduced friction, rapid oil circulation and extreme wear protection. TITAN CARGO SL SAE 5W-30 demonstrates special cost-effectiveness with extended engine oil change intervals of up to 160,000 km. The special aging stability and the excellent wear protection lead to optimum reliability.


OK, so I would not use it. It's made for a different application, off road diesel engines with OCI up to 160,000KM / 100,000 miles.

A typical light duty diesel engine oil would be a C3 oil with a TBN of about 7 with an OCI of maybe 10,000 to 20,000 miles

I don't think it's worth the risk, different oil, different application.
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#4777823 - 06/05/18 01:37 AM Re: ACEA E4/E7 in a BMW 335d ? [Re: BMW335dpfoff]
Kamele0N Offline


Registered: 02/09/15
Posts: 2051
Loc: Slovenia
Lol...use it....it will not harm anything (since your DPF is deleted)
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#4778133 - 06/05/18 12:27 PM Re: ACEA E4/E7 in a BMW 335d ? [Re: BMW335dpfoff]
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DPF deleted I think you are good to go
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#4778566 - 06/05/18 08:55 PM Re: ACEA E4/E7 in a BMW 335d ? [Re: BMW335dpfoff]
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I'd use it if there were no ULSD in Sweden, but I highly doubt that's the case. wink It'll work, but a very high ash HDEO like that wouldn't be my first choice for that application. E4 options are rather hard to find here.
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#4778736 - 06/06/18 02:21 AM Re: ACEA E4/E7 in a BMW 335d ? [Re: Garak]
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Originally Posted By: Garak
It'll work, but a very high ash HDEO like that wouldn't be my first choice for that application. E4 options are rather hard to find here.


I agree, an E4 it's not my first choice, however if it was E9 (SA <1%, TBN >7) then I would be very happy to use it.

I'm not saying E4 will kill your engine, but what's wrong with buying the correct BMW LL-04 oil ? Or at least a BMW LL-01 oil.
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