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Fram ultra #4777254
06/04/18 01:12 PM
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Would the really low micron rating of the fram ultra not hurt oil flow? Any trouble with these clogging before 10k?


2004 Silverado 5.3
Pennzoil ultra platinum 10w30 acdelco upf44
2006 Buick lucerne 3.8
Pennzoil ultra platinum 5w30 acdelco pf47
Re: Fram ultra [Re: Spitter] #4777255
06/04/18 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted By: Spitter
Would the really low micron rating of the fram ultra not hurt oil flow? Any trouble with these clogging before 10k?

No and no.


1994 BMW 530i, 242K
1996 Honda Accord, 277K
1999 Toyota Sienna, 418K
2000 Toyota ECHO, 281K
Re: Fram ultra [Re: Spitter] #4777259
06/04/18 01:19 PM
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Go direct with Motorking (Fram Rep). He will give you the psi ratings for your application.



Respectfully,

Pajero!


Always remember "Planned obsolescence."

1994 Montero SR 3.5 DOHC, 133,xxx
Fram Ultra/ Snorkel with Pre-filter
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Re: Fram ultra [Re: Spitter] #4777263
06/04/18 01:25 PM
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I have seen it mentioned that the Ultra can cause start up rattle, but that seems to be application specific.

What about the Fram Racing version of the Ultra?


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Re: Fram ultra [Re: maxdustington] #4777273
06/04/18 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted By: maxdustington
I have seen it mentioned that the Ultra can cause start up rattle, but that seems to be application specific.

What about the Fram Racing version of the Ultra?


FWIW: I've used the FRAM Ultra in my car applications (two different cars) for a good while now. No start-up rattles.


His: '12 Kia Optima SX - 2.0L GDI Twin-Scroll Turbo [Tuned] (81K)
>EDGE 0W-40, Fram XG9688
Her's: '14 Nissan Rogue SL AWD - 2.5L NA (84K)
>EDGE 0W-20, Fram XG6607
Re: Fram ultra [Re: WhizkidTN] #4777303
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I get start up rattle in my'01 Sport Trac with the Fram Ultra, but with the Mobil 1 filter
I get almost no rattle.

Re: Fram ultra [Re: kschachn] #4777345
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Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: Spitter
Would the really low micron rating of the fram ultra not hurt oil flow? Any trouble with these clogging before 10k?

No and no.


/thread


I use the overseas manual to choose my oil viscosity.

Using AMSOIL

Hers: 2008 Jeep Liberty 149k, SS5w30/Amsoil

His: 2015 4Runner 55k, OE5w30/Wix

Re: Fram ultra [Re: Spitter] #4777450
06/04/18 04:54 PM
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Hudson, NH
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Agree its app specific. It makes my 6.0 lq9 Escalade tick and slap at startup more noticeably than lesser efficient filters. So I don't use the Ultra anymore on that engine. Use the TG.


06 Escalade 6.0L LQ9 AWD 167k M1 0w40
03 Maxima 3.5L POS 170k ST HM 10w30
05 Malibu Classic 2.2 111k M1 5w30
Re: Fram ultra [Re: LeakySeals] #4777475
06/04/18 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
Agree its app specific. It makes my 6.0 lq9 Escalade tick and slap at startup more noticeably than lesser efficient filters. So I don't use the Ultra anymore on that engine. Use the TG.

Huh? Aren’t they both 99% filters?


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11 Kawasaki KLR 650
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Re: Fram ultra [Re: LeakySeals] #4777478
06/04/18 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
Agree its app specific. It makes my 6.0 lq9 Escalade tick and slap at startup more noticeably than lesser efficient filters. So I don't use the Ultra anymore on that engine. Use the TG.


The XG probably outflows the TG...


2019 RAM 1500 Sport - Mobil 1 EP 0w-20, FRAM Ultra
2016 Grand Cherokee SRT - Ravenol SSL 0w-40, FRAM Ultra
Re: Fram ultra [Re: LeakySeals] #4777479
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I wish i had the lq9. May be a swap for a future date.


2004 Silverado 5.3
Pennzoil ultra platinum 10w30 acdelco upf44
2006 Buick lucerne 3.8
Pennzoil ultra platinum 5w30 acdelco pf47
Re: Fram ultra [Re: Spitter] #4777521
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Originally Posted By: Spitter
Would the really low micron rating of the fram ultra not hurt oil flow? Any trouble with these clogging before 10k?


The old internet falsehood that high efficiency means high delta-p and flow restriction will never die. It's full synthetic media that allows High flow, high efficient and high holding capacity.

Re: Fram ultra [Re: doolah02] #4777547
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Start up rattle is typically a leaking ADBV ... not "flow restriction" of the filter.

Re: Fram ultra [Re: OVERKILL] #4777551
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Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
Agree its app specific. It makes my 6.0 lq9 Escalade tick and slap at startup more noticeably than lesser efficient filters. So I don't use the Ultra anymore on that engine. Use the TG.


The XG probably outflows the TG...


Yep, that's why start up rattle isn't caused by "flow restriction" ... but a bad ADBV instead.

Re: Fram ultra [Re: ZeeOSix] #4777552
06/04/18 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
Agree its app specific. It makes my 6.0 lq9 Escalade tick and slap at startup more noticeably than lesser efficient filters. So I don't use the Ultra anymore on that engine. Use the TG.


The XG probably outflows the TG...


Yep, that's why start up rattle isn't caused by "flow restriction" ... but a bad ADBV instead.


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2019 RAM 1500 Sport - Mobil 1 EP 0w-20, FRAM Ultra
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