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Wild Goose Chase Moto Guzzi Forum #4776886
06/04/18 06:30 AM
06/04/18 06:30 AM
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Midwest USA
LoneRanger Offline OP
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Got attacked over there for recommending consideration of Mobil 1 15W50 for a 750cc flat tappet dry clutch (not shared sump) Moto Guzzi engine that the person had been servicing with Motul 7100. Heaven knows what the reaction would have been had I mentioned Rotella ... eek

Having learned so much over the years about motor oil from you all here on bitog, I've been kind of astounded by the apparent lack of oil knowledge on Wild Goose Chase Moto Guzzi Forum. And the few times I've made recommendations or spoken up, been basically shouted down by select "seasoned" members.

At any rate, it makes me appreciate the free exchange of knowledge and open discussion environment that is bitog and the prevailing attitude of openness that exists here. Which is the purpose of this post-- to thank everyone for the open exchange of knowledge and friendly atmosphere here on one of the best forums on the internet-- BITOG.



'09 Subaru Forester ...................(QS HM 5W30)
'16 Moto Guzzi Stelvio 1200 .....(ENI i-Ride PG 10W60)
Re: Wild Goose Chase Moto Guzzi Forum [Re: LoneRanger] #4776896
06/04/18 06:44 AM
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Reno, Nevada
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I came close to buying a new 2016 Stornello this spring and lurked on that forum for awhile. Seems Guzzi reccommends SAE 60 and those guys are 100% locked in to it?

Re: Wild Goose Chase Moto Guzzi Forum [Re: LoneRanger] #4776926
06/04/18 07:33 AM
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Down Under
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I've used a lot of 10W60 in my motorcycles, but I would have no problem using M1 15W50 either. It's got a good dose of zinc and would probably shear less than 10W60.

I like Guzzi's a lot, but some Guzzi owners can be a little fixed in their ways.


Penrite Vantage 10W40 SN & A3/B4 + Wesfil-Cooper Z154
Re: Wild Goose Chase Moto Guzzi Forum [Re: LoneRanger] #4776976
06/04/18 08:44 AM
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People who think it is bad around here, need to spend a few weeks on a motorcycle forum.

Oooof...


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Re: Wild Goose Chase Moto Guzzi Forum [Re: LoneRanger] #4776983
06/04/18 08:52 AM
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Lakeside, CA
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I ran Mobil 1 15W50 in one of my Harleys years ago. I tore it down at around 35k for some engine mods and was shocked at how clean the engine was.
The pistons didn't show any wear at all. I was impressed to say the least. It sounds like they have some bad forum juju going on over there. Very common
these days from what I have seen.


99 Jeep WJ 4.7 190,000 Maxlife 10w30, Fram Ultra.
Re: Wild Goose Chase Moto Guzzi Forum [Re: Blkstanger] #4777041
06/04/18 09:41 AM
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Midwest USA
LoneRanger Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Blkstanger
I ran Mobil 1 15W50 in one of my Harleys years ago. I tore it down at around 35k for some engine mods and was shocked at how clean the engine was.
The pistons didn't show any wear at all. I was impressed to say the least. It sounds like they have some bad forum juju going on over there. Very common
these days from what I have seen.


Well basically what it seems like to me is that it's a very tight knit association of guys who all know each other from rallies and etc and new comers who haven't yet physically shown up at an event are either kept at arm's length or met with outright hostility if they offer some bit of advice or info that is new or not swimming with the downstream current.



'09 Subaru Forester ...................(QS HM 5W30)
'16 Moto Guzzi Stelvio 1200 .....(ENI i-Ride PG 10W60)
Re: Wild Goose Chase Moto Guzzi Forum [Re: LoneRanger] #4777055
06/04/18 09:55 AM
06/04/18 09:55 AM
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Western NY state
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Originally Posted By: LoneRanger


Well basically what it seems like to me is that it's a very tight knit association of guys who all know each other from rallies and etc and new comers who haven't yet physically shown up at an event are either kept at arm's length or met with outright hostility if they offer some bit of advice or info that is new or not swimming with the downstream current.


Yes it can be like that but a lot of the guys on the Wild Guzzi site own several bikes including Harlys , Asian and vintage British bikes and are friendly...Oil threads are troublesome on all vehicle websites..I still post on there despite I sold the Guzzi and own a Ducati and a 750 Honda...There is some worthwhile information there and having a thicker skin helps on all websites...


World's second fastest vintage Triumph 650, 133 MPH
Re: Wild Goose Chase Moto Guzzi Forum [Re: LoneRanger] #4777065
06/04/18 10:08 AM
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Mount Dora FL, Penfield NY, R...
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Why aren't you up at "Americade" this week? Best All Brands rally in the country.


Bob CTRC USN Ret.
Mount Dora FL,
Penfield NY
Roswell NM

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Re: Wild Goose Chase Moto Guzzi Forum [Re: Truckedup] #4777083
06/04/18 10:23 AM
06/04/18 10:23 AM
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Katy, Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted By: Truckedup


Yes it can be like that but a lot of the guys on the Wild Guzzi site own several bikes including Harlys , Asian and vintage British bikes and are friendly...Oil threads are troublesome on all vehicle websites...

Yup, nothing brings up arguments like what oil and/or filter to use on a forum.
Seems many forums have the "old guard" that all drink the same kool-aid, and if you disagree, even when presenting facts, you get hammered hard.
Suggesting useing a Fram filter will almost get you banned on some forums, even if posting pics of used Fram's being fine and pics of other brands (cough, Tearolator, cough) not holding up.

I tend to say my peace (usually something along the line of use a quality oil with no friction modifiers (either OEM, motorcycle specific oil, or diesel oils) in the weight suggested by the manufacturer, use a quality oil filter (Wix, Fram, or OEM)).
I then tend to post what I am/have used in the past with good results, then a little blurb about in the end, changing the oil on a routine basis based on their riding conditions is more important than specific brands.


2012 Scion xB: QSUD 0w-20/CQ Blue/5k OCI
2002 Ford F150: GTX HM 5w-20/EcoGard Syn/1yr OCI
1994 Honda VT1100: Peak 15w-40/PSL/2500 mile OCI

Re: Wild Goose Chase Moto Guzzi Forum [Re: ctrcbob] #4777103
06/04/18 10:39 AM
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Western NY state
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Originally Posted By: ctrcbob
Why aren't you up at "Americade" this week? Best All Brands rally in the country.


Talking to me? If so, my neighbor rode up there, about 220 miles one way...I don't normally attend large bike gatherings..


World's second fastest vintage Triumph 650, 133 MPH
Re: Wild Goose Chase Moto Guzzi Forum [Re: LoneRanger] #4777104
06/04/18 10:39 AM
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San Antonio, Texas
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Same experience here over on Rennlist, a Porsche forum. Oil "old wives tales" permeate the car world.


03 Porsche 911 Liqui Moly Leichtlauf High Tech 5w-40 & Mahle filter
14 Honda Accord 4dr EX-L 4cyl-M1 0W-20 & WIX XP
02 Chevy 5.7L van-GTX HM 10W-40 & WIX filter
Re: Wild Goose Chase Moto Guzzi Forum [Re: LoneRanger] #4777129
06/04/18 11:09 AM
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Jupiter, Florida
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It would be interesting to hear the reasons why the don’t like M1, 15W-50. UOA results?


People who count on their fingers should maintain a discreet silence.
Re: Wild Goose Chase Moto Guzzi Forum [Re: sasilverbullet] #4777131
06/04/18 11:11 AM
06/04/18 11:11 AM
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Connecticut
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Connecticut
Originally Posted By: sasilverbullet
Same experience here over on Rennlist, a Porsche forum. Oil "old wives tales" permeate the car world.


Same over at a Lincoln brand forums. Mentioned 10w-30 engine oil for summer use and was met with "too thick" and that it could cause damage to the most remote oiled parts. I was sort of shocked. It's 2018...not 1978.


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2001 Lincoln Cont 4.6L DOHC/ 39K mi / QS HM 5w30 / FUG XG2
1999 Camaro SS M6 /19K /Mobil 1 0w40 /Fram UG /GM MTL-ATF
1969 Ply GTX/RRs
Re: Wild Goose Chase Moto Guzzi Forum [Re: LoneRanger] #4777157
06/04/18 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted By: LoneRanger
Got attacked over there for recommending consideration of Mobil 1 15W50 for a 750cc flat tappet dry clutch (not shared sump) Moto Guzzi engine that the person had been servicing with Motul 7100. Heaven knows what the reaction would have been had I mentioned Rotella ... eek

Having learned so much over the years about motor oil from you all here on bitog, I've been kind of astounded by the apparent lack of oil knowledge on Wild Goose Chase Moto Guzzi Forum. And the few times I've made recommendations or spoken up, been basically shouted down by select "seasoned" members.

At any rate, it makes me appreciate the free exchange of knowledge and open discussion environment that is bitog and the prevailing attitude of openness that exists here. Which is the purpose of this post-- to thank everyone for the open exchange of knowledge and friendly atmosphere here on one of the best forums on the internet-- BITOG.

"Heaven knows what the reaction would have been had I mentioned Rotella ..." Go back and do it!!!!! grin


2018 RAM 1500 3.6/8 speed.
2017 Jeep Sahara Unlimited 3.6
"U kan't fixe it......if'n it ain't broke."
Re: Wild Goose Chase Moto Guzzi Forum [Re: LoneRanger] #4777248
06/04/18 01:06 PM
06/04/18 01:06 PM
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VW Fanboy Island
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VW Fanboy Island
Gatekeeping occurs on every online community, we do the same thing here when someone mentions how oil specs in owner's manuals are different around the world. Although this is an automotive forum, there are plenty of other topics discussed that keep the groupthink under control.


03 Jetta AWP/09A 205k kms
Edge 0W40 + Mann 719/30
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