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#4773239 - 05/31/18 11:03 AM OIL FILTER RELOCATION KIT, looking for feedback!
wsar10 Offline


Registered: 04/11/11
Posts: 678
Loc: PA
Good morning guys!
I have a unique situation of which I am seeking feedback or insight on.
2011, Ford Ranger, 29k mi, 4.0v6, auto, 4x4, ext cab.
Yes you read it correctly, only 29,000 miles! 20Yrs from now it will still probably only have 39k!!

My Dad is now retired and seems to be trying to simplify all things in his life. One of these is vehicle maintenance. He tells me that the oil filter in truck is a PITA to change, I have never even put eyes on it to speak of its location in any way.
I generically suggested an oil filter relocation kit... Well, he took me up on the thought and started to do some research.

My only true experience with one is many years back, a friend and I did a v8 conversion to a Chevy S-10 (very common back in the 90's in the mini-truck or show truck world). We used one because the stock filter mount would simply not work due to space, we used a relocation kit (I think from JC Whitney) and mounted it to a frame rail.
My Dad was asking me several questions about doing this and wants to move forward dependent on insight we receive here.
I told him I had just the group to ask for info, BITOG! In a perfect world we would love to source one that moves the filter to the top of the engine compartment and takes a cartridge style filter like his new Forester or my Sorento takes. However we have only found ones that are traditional spin on style.

Questions/Concerns:
Is it even feasible to do?
Do you have a recommendation for a specific quality kit?
Do you think we would have a oil pressure issue due top length of lines and so on?
Any suggestions on location?
(I obviously understand that it needs some level of protection in terms of location and that we should keep air flow in mind)
What other concerns or questions should we have?


Thank you for any help you can offer.
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#4773249 - 05/31/18 11:09 AM Re: OIL FILTER RELOCATION KIT, looking for feedback! [Re: wsar10]
skyactiv Offline


Registered: 03/02/13
Posts: 4405
Loc: The Midwest
That has all the potential to cause more problems than it will ever prevent. Don't waste your time on it.
If you want to simply things, install a Fumoto valve or take the truck to the dealer or wherever and have the oil changed.
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#4773257 - 05/31/18 11:19 AM Re: OIL FILTER RELOCATION KIT, looking for feedback! [Re: skyactiv]
Leo99 Offline


Registered: 03/30/14
Posts: 3052
Loc: NJ
Originally Posted By: skyactiv
That has all the potential to cause more problems than it will ever prevent. Don't waste your time on it.
If you want to simply things, install a Fumoto valve or take the truck to the dealer or wherever and have the oil changed.


I'd just take it someplace every 2 years to have the oil changed.
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#4773276 - 05/31/18 11:35 AM Re: OIL FILTER RELOCATION KIT, looking for feedback! [Re: wsar10]
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Registered: 12/16/17
Posts: 291
Loc: Massachusetts
There are plenty of potential issues with getting a reliable installation, but oil pressure is not one of them. Oil pumps create flow, and oil pressure comes from the engine presenting a controlled restriction to that flow. Adding a few feet of properly sized hose adds negligible resistance compared to all of the tiny clearances the oil has to squeeze through in the engine.

Why the requirement for a cartridge filter? If anything a spin on would be quicker and cause less of a mess compared to a cartridge.

But it may be easier to just have a shop change the oil. Consider the cost of an oil change at the shop compared with the cost of sourcing the oil + filter yourself, then see how many oil changes it would take for the relocation kit to break even.
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#4773303 - 05/31/18 11:57 AM Re: OIL FILTER RELOCATION KIT, looking for feedback! [Re: wsar10]
Dave9 Offline


Registered: 08/28/17
Posts: 188
Loc: Cincinnati, USA
It is not that difficult to get to the oil filter on those... at the low mileage driven, less trouble than putting the kit in.

The simple thing is let an oil change place do the change, one you trust not to touch a **** thing besides the oil and filter.

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#4773316 - 05/31/18 12:05 PM Re: OIL FILTER RELOCATION KIT, looking for feedback! [Re: wsar10]
KMJ1992 Offline


Registered: 01/01/18
Posts: 95
Loc: Iowa, United States
There is absolutely nothing wrong with a filter relocation kit, but dont cheap out on the hoses or yes, they can leak. Now if i recall, that engine has the filter up on the passenger side, quite a ways up. They initially used the FL1A, later the FL400s and some use the FL820s. I personally like the capacity of the FL1a, but it doesnt have a silicone adbv, so i use the Purolator One version, which does.

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#4773317 - 05/31/18 12:06 PM Re: OIL FILTER RELOCATION KIT, looking for feedback! [Re: wsar10]
goodtimes Offline


Registered: 12/08/10
Posts: 2862
Loc: california
There are two different Frantz bypass filter companies now, one sells a synthetic element. The cellulose element filters finer and takes out water, which ought to be good in this case. It may be possible to get an adapter that eliminates the full flow filter entirely. Or maybe they only have a sandwich adapter now.
Check Amsoil's website for ideas too.

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#4773334 - 05/31/18 12:16 PM Re: OIL FILTER RELOCATION KIT, looking for feedback! [Re: Dave9]
Kira Offline


Registered: 08/19/10
Posts: 5263
Loc: Champlain/Hudson Valley
If you need "another county" to report in......the previous answerers both pro and con are on the money.

If your Pop is gettin' up there (arthritis in the hands etc.) and you want to set him up with easy-to-do oil changes....that's one thing, but practicality and economy say don't do it.

Similarly, if it's a hobby activity from which you get enjoyment, then do it.

Best of luck with your decision.

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#4773342 - 05/31/18 12:19 PM Re: OIL FILTER RELOCATION KIT, looking for feedback! [Re: wsar10]
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Registered: 06/28/03
Posts: 5751
Loc: Illinois
I used a bypass kit for a few years. Only problem was the hoses got hard after about five years so they should be changed sometime. Leaks are just sloppy installation I would think. I just used hose barbs and worm clamps and that was good for 100 psi and no leaking.
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#4773419 - 05/31/18 01:30 PM Re: OIL FILTER RELOCATION KIT, looking for feedback! [Re: wsar10]
AdamZ Offline


Registered: 04/06/17
Posts: 52
Loc: Ontario, Canada
I have the trans-dapt one on my 1994 Pathfinder. The swivel fittings on one end leaked right from the start. So I took them off and used non swivel barbs, with hose clamps. I've driven it probably 20k miles and there are no leaks. My oil changes are much easier, and I have more oil/filter capacity as well. It added almost an extra quart to the change.

I personally like it but for how many oil changes that truck will see, maybe not worth the time to install.
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#4773423 - 05/31/18 01:34 PM Re: OIL FILTER RELOCATION KIT, looking for feedback! [Re: wsar10]
benjy Offline


Registered: 08/23/10
Posts: 874
Loc: pa
i too am looking into a relocation kit, but for my 2011 nissan frontier with a VERY small OE filter that is a PITA, but just want a bigger quality filter. many kits use the 3/4X16 mounting used on a LOT of vehicles + WIX makes the XP version of the typical Ph8A filter used in many fords. my nissan uses a 20mmX1.5 filter mount. there are a lot of kits out there with varying prices, some like Amsoil are way $$$$ but many are around a buck depending on the quality of hoses, you can source quality braided hoses with pressed on fittings as well + use with separate adapters. the cheap trans-dapt kit i was looking at had a pair of 30" hoses but could be cheaply exchanged for longer ones from trans dapt if not used. my engine compartment is "busy" but i think i can do the 5.05 X 3.66 PH8a spin on, no fram of course!!

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#4773426 - 05/31/18 01:37 PM Re: OIL FILTER RELOCATION KIT, looking for feedback! [Re: wsar10]
MasterSolenoid Offline


Registered: 09/26/17
Posts: 168
Loc: One Step Beyond
My 2 cents,

Instead of installing a relocation kit,
Use a Fram Ultra Filter and change it every 18 - 24 Months.
I believe there good for 15,000 miles.

wsar10 can go to his Dads house and change it for him.
Do something for your Dad and also sit and visit.



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#4773624 - 05/31/18 05:39 PM Re: OIL FILTER RELOCATION KIT, looking for feedback! [Re: wsar10]
Donald Online   content


Registered: 03/21/04
Posts: 20471
Loc: Upstate NY
I would not do it as it adds more trouble points than helps.

I added a bypass oil filter but I worry about hose chafe.
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#4773641 - 05/31/18 05:55 PM Re: OIL FILTER RELOCATION KIT, looking for feedback! [Re: wsar10]
Dyusik Offline


Registered: 09/26/14
Posts: 1984
Loc: US-WA
https://pitstopusa.com/i-23943159-perma-...side-ports.html
Throw a couple of DBL7349's on it, and you have a great little filter relocation kit. Can't beat that setup with a stick. cool
That should be a healthy 100k mi FCI right there.
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#4773692 - 05/31/18 06:41 PM Re: OIL FILTER RELOCATION KIT, looking for feedback! [Re: wsar10]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
Posts: 6178
Loc: Waco, TX
Fram Ultra.

You won't need to change the oil filter until it's got 20,000 miles or more on it.

I ran a Motorcraft FL-1A for over 30,000 miles (I still changed the oil, every 10K)

When I cut it open - - it was just fine.

Then there is this:
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4770087/1
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