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#4772923 - 05/31/18 03:45 AM eljefino - is that you in the Phillipines ?
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Registered: 12/12/02
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Loc: 'Stralia

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#4772960 - 05/31/18 06:17 AM Re: eljefino - is that you in the Phillipines ? [Re: Shannow]
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Registered: 10/25/12
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I got a couple of tyre irons the last time I was back in the UK but can't do anything with them. Much too blunt. I had a Girling one a long time ago that was usable, but that guys (probably self-made) look much better. Wonder what he made them from. Look like spring steel but a bit thin for leaf springs.

The details of the vulcanising procedure are obscured by the tyre a bit. Here's one from Cambodia, though its only patching a tube.



Rather disappointingly, the patch looks to be made for the job rather than improvised. The heater appears to be a piston fitted with a handle.

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#4772964 - 05/31/18 06:20 AM Re: eljefino - is that you in the Phillipines ? [Re: Shannow]
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Nifty video....served to underscore my appreciation for my place on this planet.

NOW for the TECH of it: Seems the "fire step" went on a little long.

I've installed patches on the inside and after roughening-up, some glue, lat the patch on and roll it hard....then light it up.
It'd burn for 5 seconds or so.

That guy was roasting marshmallows!

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#4772966 - 05/31/18 06:22 AM Re: eljefino - is that you in the Phillipines ? [Re: Shannow]
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I've got a couple of vulcanising patch tins around the place...a couple of clapms too...took them to work, and only two guys knew what they were.

I remember one weekend when I was around 7 or 8, when My Mum's Sister's husband tried to fix a flat (tubed) on his car (Datsun 240K), by the vulcanising patch...it was a debacle, as he refitted the tyre, he made more holes in the tube.

Smell of napalm in the morning is nothing compared to phosphorous.

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#4773020 - 05/31/18 07:54 AM Re: eljefino - is that you in the Phillipines ? [Re: Shannow]
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I like the safety shoes....
And Kira, spot on... our place...

and the lookie-loos at the end admiring the tech's work....

now one question: why a round boulder to hold the car? why not a square/rectangle/curbside piece one?
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#4773029 - 05/31/18 08:11 AM Re: eljefino - is that you in the Phillipines ? [Re: Shannow]
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Being raised in a service station, tire repair was often observed. Irons were called spoons, much soap was used. On bicycles I learned quickly that screwdrivers made lousy tire irons.
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#4773038 - 05/31/18 08:18 AM Re: eljefino - is that you in the Phillipines ? [Re: Shannow]
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Registered: 09/21/10
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That’s all pro ~ I used to work in the Philippines … see something different every day …

Lots of natural beauty in the countryside and areas like Makati City were developed into very modern business and dining spreads while keeping some green belts …

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#4773194 - 05/31/18 10:32 AM Re: eljefino - is that you in the Phillipines ? [Re: Ducked]
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Registered: 06/13/16
Posts: 2736
Loc: MN
Originally Posted By: Ducked
The details of the vulcanising procedure are obscured by the tyre a bit.
"Vulcanizing" is sulphur, heat, and raw rubber. This is just melting rubber to seal the hole, that's all. He damaged the halobutyl inner liner with that marshmallow-roast move.

I don't like his lug nut torquing pattern. Should be a star pattern to keep the rotors from warping. Where is his ASE Certification? Didn't see it hanging on the wall anywhere.

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#4773291 - 05/31/18 11:47 AM Re: eljefino - is that you in the Phillipines ? [Re: Shannow]
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OSHA violation X ???.

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#4773305 - 05/31/18 11:59 AM Re: eljefino - is that you in the Phillipines ? [Re: Shannow]
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Reminds me of my childhood. One of the first repair jobs we learned was how to fix a flat on our bicycles. Always borrowed matches from the folks to light the patch to fuse the glue and rubber on the tubes.


Spent a bit of time in the Philippines. Vulcanizing shops are everywhere. Tires get repaired until they just cannot be saved. A lot of bald tires running on vehicles there.
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#4773315 - 05/31/18 12:05 PM Re: eljefino - is that you in the Phillipines ? [Re: Shannow]
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Registered: 08/31/02
Posts: 408
Loc: USA
Vehicle is Innova Diesel. Assembly likely in Santa Rosa, Philippines
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Innova

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#4773651 - 05/31/18 06:07 PM Re: eljefino - is that you in the Phillipines ? [Re: thrace]
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Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 4080
Loc: California
Originally Posted By: thrace
Vehicle is Innova Diesel. Assembly likely in Santa Rosa, Philippines
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Innova

Toyota developed the IMVs for the 3rd world, but you don't see them in Central America/South America/Mexico.

And it's also a D4-D common rail engine but unless you're in Hong Kong, Japan, Singapore, Taiwan, South Korea and parts of China the diesel in Asia is dirtier than our ULSD or even the pre-2007 low-sulfur diesel.


Edited by nthach (05/31/18 06:07 PM)

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#4773699 - 05/31/18 06:45 PM Re: eljefino - is that you in the Phillipines ? [Re: oil_film_movies]
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Registered: 10/25/12
Posts: 4486
Loc: Taiwan
Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
Originally Posted By: Ducked
The details of the vulcanising procedure are obscured by the tyre a bit.
"Vulcanizing" is sulphur, heat, and raw rubber. This is just melting rubber to seal the hole, that's all. He damaged the halobutyl inner liner with that marshmallow-roast move.


Yeh, should have been "Vulcanising".

Seems to be some some disagreement as to whether its just melting rubber. Several mentions above of lighting off glue, though I wouldn't have thought that'd enhance adhesion.

On bikes I just use contact adhesive and a bit of old inner tube.No heat but clamp between two coins in mole grips. On cars so far I've only used the tyre string kits, which are widely considered criminally irresponsible in the UK, especially by people who sell tyres. Maybe I/'ll try the BBQ technique.

Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies


I don't like his lug nut torquing pattern. Should be a star pattern to keep the rotors from warping. Where is his ASE Certification? Didn't see it hanging on the wall anywhere.


Looked over-tightened to me, so he's following the same standards as you get in the first world from a professional using air tools.

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#4773703 - 05/31/18 06:49 PM Re: eljefino - is that you in the Phillipines ? [Re: PimTac]
Ducked Offline


Registered: 10/25/12
Posts: 4486
Loc: Taiwan
Originally Posted By: PimTac
A lot of bald tires running on vehicles there.


Fair number here, but then its predictably dry for more than half the year, and they'll perform better then, so statistically you might be no worse off.

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#4773710 - 05/31/18 06:55 PM Re: eljefino - is that you in the Phillipines ? [Re: pandus13]
Ducked Offline


Registered: 10/25/12
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Loc: Taiwan
Originally Posted By: pandus13
I like the safety shoes....
And Kira, spot on... our place...

and the lookie-loos at the end admiring the tech's work....

now one question: why a round boulder to hold the car? why not a square/rectangle/curbside piece one?


I'd describe it as a tapered section of tree trunk. Taper has obvious advantages in fitting. Squared off with a side=axe or adze would have been nicer but not so easily moved. Actually I was surprised he used anything, but perhaps his jack leaks.

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