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Is Fram OK now? #4771552
05/29/18 07:38 PM
05/29/18 07:38 PM
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GA, USA
AnonOIl Offline OP
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GA, USA
So in the past I have read/heard to avoid the "OCOD" for either the end caps not being made of metal, poor quality control, or hearing people claim with Fram filters they have lower oil pressure. However everything I see recently shows the "OCOD" holding up ok, and the TG and Ultra are even better. And they all now have Silicone ADBV's. So is the "OCOD" OK? It is very affordable at Walmart near me, only thing cheaper is a Supertech filter. Yes Fram, or no Fram and why? Thanks so much.

Re: Is Fram OK now? [Re: AnonOIl] #4771561
05/29/18 07:45 PM
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San Rafael, CA
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I will not put Fram on anything out of principle and why bother when alternatives with a better reputation are readily available, such as Wix!

Last edited by dogememe; 05/29/18 07:45 PM.

2010 Ford Escape 2.5 ~96K Miles
Valvoline 5W-20 from VIOC.
1995 Chevy Silverado 5.7 ~277K Miles
Delo 10W-30 ~ ACDelco PF52
Re: Is Fram OK now? [Re: AnonOIl] #4771565
05/29/18 07:48 PM
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North Carolina
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I'm thinking there was never anything wrong with Fram - just people that don't know any better saying they're garbage because "they're made of paper!"


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Re: Is Fram OK now? [Re: AnonOIl] #4771583
05/29/18 07:58 PM
05/29/18 07:58 PM
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The Midwest
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I used only Fram oil filters when my wife owned a 2012 Mazda3 with the 2.0L Skyactiv engine. Why? Fram was the only filter maker to list the proper oil filter when the car first came out. Other filter makers goofed and said to use the same oil filter used on the other, older 2.0L engine which has a different thread size. The end-caps aren't cardboard and don't flake apart. Use without worry.


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Re: Is Fram OK now? [Re: AnonOIl] #4771587
05/29/18 07:58 PM
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Mississippi
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Fram is not the best but in a pinch I would use one.


2011 Impala
2012 Colorado
Oil: 5w30 synthetic
Filters: Wix 51522 for both
Re: Is Fram OK now? [Re: AnonOIl] #4771596
05/29/18 08:03 PM
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St. Charles County, Missouri
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Stories started by a disgruntled employee that just took off. Too bad there wasn't a Snopes for cars at that time.


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Re: Is Fram OK now? [Re: rooflessVW] #4771599
05/29/18 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
I'm thinking there was never anything wrong with Fram - just people that don't know any better saying they're garbage because "they're made of paper!"


That sums it up nicely in my book.


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Re: Is Fram OK now? [Re: AnonOIl] #4771618
05/29/18 08:16 PM
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NY
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I use fram because i got them for .75c from tractor supply. They seem to be working for me.


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Re: Is Fram OK now? [Re: dogememe] #4771627
05/29/18 08:24 PM
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Tri State Conservative
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Originally Posted By: dogememe
I will not put Fram on anything out of principle and why bother when alternatives with a better reputation are readily available, such as Wix!


What principle would that be?


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Re: Is Fram OK now? [Re: AnonOIl] #4771631
05/29/18 08:27 PM
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Washington, USA
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Many cut-and-posts here prove they are quality filters that do the job they were designed for. You will never find agreement here on whatís the best filter, but they have multiple models and price points so you canít go wrong.


2016 F-150 3.5L Ecoboost
Current Oil: Castrol Magnatec 5W-30 and Fram Ultra filter
Re: Is Fram OK now? [Re: AnonOIl] #4771652
05/29/18 08:40 PM
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Georgia
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Georgia
I wonít use an ExtraGuard or ToughGuard on anything I own. I do have an Ultra Synthetic XG4957 on my new Toro zero turn mower. Experience with the OCOD is my reason for not using the two lower tier filters.


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2017 Ford Escape SE 2.0T Now: NAPA Synthetic 5W30 & NAPA Gold 1348
Re: Is Fram OK now? [Re: AnonOIl] #4771664
05/29/18 08:52 PM
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Virginia
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The Fram orange can has been improved for several years now. More pleats in the pH 8 or ph 2, and pH 16 sizes has made those a fair amount better than they used to be. The other sizes like 7317, 6607, 4386, 4967, 3593a plus other sizes have also had some added media to improve their strength. The Fram orange can is a filter that can be run without any worries. I could be wrong but I think the Fram Ultra being made has good as it had been at the time... Also led to improvements being made to the tiered filters below the Ultra.


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Havoline high mileage 5w30 Microgard 57356
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Re: Is Fram OK now? [Re: AnonOIl] #4771707
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FRAM has always been okay, even the OCOD, and I would have no problems using one.


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Mobil1 5W-30 + FRAM PH6607

2015 Nissan Murano
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Re: Is Fram OK now? [Re: AnonOIl] #4771712
05/29/18 09:33 PM
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The only problems I have with OCOD is the price. They seem pricey for what they are.


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Re: Is Fram OK now? [Re: FordBroncoVWJeta] #4771716
05/29/18 09:36 PM
05/29/18 09:36 PM
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Indiana
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Originally Posted By: FordBroncoVWJeta
The only problems I have with OCOD is the price. They seem pricey for what they are.


It's essentially a WIX/ NAPA Gold for under $4.


03 Jeep WJ 4.0 202k Edge 10w40 HM Fram XG16
02 Volvo S60 2.4T 186k M1 0w40 Mahle OX149D
97 Chevy Blazer 4.3 158k M1 EP 10w30 Supertech ST3980 (Ecore)

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