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W = Winter #4765447
05/22/18 08:08 PM
05/22/18 08:08 PM
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Voleak Offline OP
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The reason I made an account on this website was to finally learn about motor oil; the importance of regular oil changes, using the correct oil, and other things I could learn from you all about oil.

So, I have to confess that I always thought the "W" stood for weight (i.e. 0W20). But, since I have been a member on BITOG, I have began reading other online articles on motor oil, too, and that's how I just figured out the "W" stands for Winter. In fact thinking back all those years, I have heard people refer to oil as 10 weight 40 (10W40) etc.

Anyways, I learned more about oil in the past week or so, than I have in decades. I am sure this has already been talked about a million times, but I couldn't find anything, probably me not searching properly. Thank you.


2017 Subaru Crosstrek CVT w/ Eyesight. Subaru 0w20 oil and filter

2018 Volvo XC60 T5 Momentum AWD. 5W30 Castrol Edge Professional with Volvo filter (?)

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Re: W = Winter [Re: Voleak] #4765460
05/22/18 08:34 PM
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And so continues your journey into better knowledge about how to care for your car.


OT BTW, how many miles on your Crosstrek, and how do you like it? My dad has a 2014 model that I've driven a bit.


1998 V70 GLT / 202k miles [10w-30 Valvoline Syn w/ Maxlife Tech + Mann W917 filter]

"Use yah blinkah!"

"Be nice. The alternative involves an air horn and 7000 lumens of high beam."
Re: W = Winter [Re: VeryNoisyPoet] #4765472
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Voleak Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: VeryNoisyPoet
And so continues your journey into better knowledge about how to care for your car.


OT BTW, how many miles on your Crosstrek, and how do you like it? My dad has a 2014 model that I've driven a bit.


I have about 16,000 miles on it. The first four oil changes are "free" through Subaru (6K intervals). After 36,000 miles I will do my own oil changes, this will be a new experience for me, as I have always taken my cars to a dealership or Walmart Auto Service Dept. I love my Crosstrek. I really don't want anyone touching her, but I will use the Subaru service until warranty is done. It is already my favorite car I have ever owned.


2017 Subaru Crosstrek CVT w/ Eyesight. Subaru 0w20 oil and filter

2018 Volvo XC60 T5 Momentum AWD. 5W30 Castrol Edge Professional with Volvo filter (?)

Stoked on Life.
Re: W = Winter [Re: Voleak] #4765482
05/22/18 09:07 PM
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S = Summer
A = Autumn
E = Eastern

3
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Re: W = Winter [Re: Voleak] #4765488
05/22/18 09:14 PM
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Since you will be doing more of your own work in the near future, keep an eye on the service schedule. Here's a few things to be aware of, which may or may not affect your model.

- Rear differential fluid may be due around 30k.

- I think the CVT fluid is one of those "lifetime" fluids, but I'll be sampling my dad's CVT for analysis as he just turned over 30k.

- We only put 5k to 7k a year on ours, so we are considering 1-year oil change intervals. Analysis for that coming soon so keep an eye on the UOA forum.

- Unless Subaru changed things, the OEM tires may be about done by 30k depending on your driving style and conditions. OEM tire specs were not the best as a cost saving measure, at least on the 2014. We're looking into replacement options right now.

- Not sure if the 2017 has LED brake lights, but our 2014 with incandescents burns out about one brake light every year, and I've seen tons of Crosstreks around here with one or both brake lights out.

- Careful use of manual mode with the CVT on the highway and a steady foot can net fuel economy several MPG higher than the EPA estimate. According to the trip computer back when I borrowed it more often, I routinely could get 35 highway and once got it up to 39.

- They are very sturdy in a crash. A car pulled out on my dad and I and we sorta t-boned them at about 20 mph. Neither of us felt a thing besides the shock that the crash happened at all. Still cost $5k to repair, so thankfully insurance ruled in our favor.


1998 V70 GLT / 202k miles [10w-30 Valvoline Syn w/ Maxlife Tech + Mann W917 filter]

"Use yah blinkah!"

"Be nice. The alternative involves an air horn and 7000 lumens of high beam."
Re: W = Winter [Re: Voleak] #4765496
05/22/18 09:24 PM
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you want another secret?
If you need a weight that doesn't exist, just mix them up.
For example 50/50 mix of 5W20 and 10W30 will get you 7.5Wx25 ... lol
j/k it doesn't work that way!

Re: W = Winter [Re: Warstud] #4765501
05/22/18 09:31 PM
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Where the wind comes sweepin'
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Where the wind comes sweepin'
Originally Posted By: Warstud
S = Summer
A = Autumn
E = Eastern

3
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I thought it was Super Animal Energy?

Re: W = Winter [Re: Warstud] #4765518
05/22/18 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted By: Warstud
S = Summer
A = Autumn
E = Eastern

3
0


crackmeup


'14 Forester XT FA20DIT (Cobb Stage 1)
Edge 0W-40 + FU filter (64,774 miles)
'15 Legacy FB25 (OEM Stage, uh, neg. 7?)
Edge 0W-20 + FU filter (40,803 miles)
Re: W = Winter [Re: Warstud] #4765523
05/22/18 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted By: Warstud
S = Summer
A = Autumn
E = Eastern

3
0


Ummmm.... Society of Automotive Engineers


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: W = Winter [Re: Voleak] #4765524
05/22/18 10:14 PM
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Monograde 30. It's all I used in South Texas the first 2 decades I changed oil, plus maybe a can of STP in summer. My dad only ran SAE 30 as long as we lived there and I carried on after inheriting his 1980 Chevy 250 straight six three on a tree half ton pickup truck.


"No matter how paranoid you are you're not paranoid enough. Tell the truth. Reach as many people as you can with it. That's your weapon." - Susanne Modeski, aka "Holly" to The Lone Gunmen
Re: W = Winter [Re: Voleak] #4765602
05/23/18 04:37 AM
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Warranty education. No, you do not need to get the dealer to do all your work in order to keep warranty intact. You could begin doing it your once the freebies are up. Use the required lubes and keep the receipts and time done.


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Re: W = Winter [Re: Voleak] #4765640
05/23/18 06:05 AM
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Welcome to the site West Coast!

Re: W = Winter [Re: Linctex] #4765748
05/23/18 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted By: Linctex
Originally Posted By: Warstud
S = Summer
A = Autumn
E = Eastern

3
0


Ummmm.... Society of Automotive Engineers


Your facetiameter is broken.
crackmeup


'14 Forester XT FA20DIT (Cobb Stage 1)
Edge 0W-40 + FU filter (64,774 miles)
'15 Legacy FB25 (OEM Stage, uh, neg. 7?)
Edge 0W-20 + FU filter (40,803 miles)
Re: W = Winter [Re: NH73] #4765783
05/23/18 09:03 AM
05/23/18 09:03 AM
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Voleak Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: NH73
Warranty education. No, you do not need to get the dealer to do all your work in order to keep warranty intact. You could begin doing it your once the freebies are up. Use the required lubes and keep the receipts and time done.


Thank you, this is very good to know.

And, thanks to others here, for all the other information given. I don't know how to do the multiple quotes in one post, otherwise I would thank you all individually.


2017 Subaru Crosstrek CVT w/ Eyesight. Subaru 0w20 oil and filter

2018 Volvo XC60 T5 Momentum AWD. 5W30 Castrol Edge Professional with Volvo filter (?)

Stoked on Life.
Re: W = Winter [Re: Voleak] #4766375
05/23/18 08:56 PM
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Does a Crosstrek have the Ring Of Fire wrapping around the oil filter like other Subies? If so, you may want to invest in some Kevlar welding sleeves. If you drain the oil warm, the exhaust that wraps around the oil filter will be like 500 degrees.


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