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#4760465 - 05/17/18 10:46 PM Thread locker to keep un-torqued screw in place
EdwardC Offline


Registered: 11/14/13
Posts: 1903
Loc: Chicago, IL
I have some machine screws that I need to screw into a metal structure (threaded). The machine screw needs to tighten down and hold another piece of metal, but I don't want it tight since I want the middle piece to be able to pivot and spin as needed. I feel that a nylon lock nut would be ideal for what I want (if the other side of the screw was accessible), but it's not.

So my question, is there a certain type of thread locking compound that would work best at keeping a machine screw locked in place while that screw isn't torqued at all? It's a fairly high vibration assembly, so I'm afraid that if I don't do anything, the screw will back out. I'd prefer it to be removable, so my first choice was to use a medium thread locker, or Vibra-tite VC-3, which I think both would be adequate, but I'm curious if there's a better product out there.

Thanks, I hope my description made sense!

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#4760469 - 05/17/18 10:51 PM Re: Thread locker to keep un-torqued screw in place [Re: EdwardC]
andyd Offline


Registered: 09/25/04
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Loc: Marshfield , MA
Use a shoulder bolt and a ny-lok nut.
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#4760477 - 05/17/18 11:00 PM Re: Thread locker to keep un-torqued screw in place [Re: EdwardC]
EdwardC Offline


Registered: 11/14/13
Posts: 1903
Loc: Chicago, IL
Thanks, I hadn't thought about swapping out the fastener, a shoulder bolt of appropriate length isn't a bad idea at all. I don't have access to the other side (basically a tapped blind hole), so I can't use any kind of nut (or else I'd just throw a normal nut on as a jam nut).

With a shoulder bolt, I could properly torque it down. I might be wrong, but my assumption was that most common thread lockers relied on the fastener being properly torqued to work right.

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#4760490 - 05/17/18 11:27 PM Re: Thread locker to keep un-torqued screw in place [Re: EdwardC]
zrxkawboy Offline


Registered: 11/30/04
Posts: 1784
Loc: SD
Vibra-tite sounds ideal for this situation.
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#4760564 - 05/18/18 05:33 AM Re: Thread locker to keep un-torqued screw in place [Re: EdwardC]
Trav Offline


Registered: 11/20/06
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+1 on the shoulder bolt, a full threaded machine screw with loctite is the wrong fastener for this job. You can use thin nylon washers to take most of the play out and have smoother movement.
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#4760690 - 05/18/18 08:23 AM Re: Thread locker to keep un-torqued screw in place [Re: EdwardC]
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Registered: 09/06/15
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Loc: Kalifornia Kollective
+2 on shoulder bolt.

I use PVA wood glue on clean threads. Always comes loose when needed. Holds pretty well while in place. Poor mans Lock-Tite laugh




Edited by BrocLuno (05/18/18 08:23 AM)
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#4760749 - 05/18/18 09:00 AM Re: Thread locker to keep un-torqued screw in place [Re: EdwardC]
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Registered: 05/20/13
Posts: 2022
Loc: Saskatchewan, Canada
Multiple options:
-Those already suggested
-Stake the top of the bolt / fastener
-Use Nail Polish (=lacquer and pigment, but can be borrowed or buy a close-out bottle at the pharmacy for $1) over the top / side of the fastener / bolt threads
-Solder (permanent, essentially) with a heat gun instead of soldering iron providing the heat
-Epoxy (a small ball of putty epoxy would be perhaps ideal at just one point of the top of the fastener / thread interface, could just grind off that part of the threads to remove the fastener, the remaining threads would allow removal / re-assembly)

I'm sure there are other options.
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#4760778 - 05/18/18 09:27 AM Re: Thread locker to keep un-torqued screw in place [Re: EdwardC]
Ducked Offline


Registered: 10/25/12
Posts: 4471
Loc: Taiwan
polythene film from a bag of appropriate thickness.

(Poor man's Nylock)


Edited by Ducked (05/18/18 09:29 AM)

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#4761192 - 05/18/18 04:23 PM Re: Thread locker to keep un-torqued screw in place [Re: EdwardC]
EdwardC Offline


Registered: 11/14/13
Posts: 1903
Loc: Chicago, IL
Thanks everyone! I have several of these to assemble, so I may try a few different methods you guys listed and see how it turns out. I think my first trial is to see if I can get the proper length shoulder bolt.

I actually really do like the idea of thin nylon washers, I want the part to be able to turn, but I don't want or need it to turn super freely, a little resistance would be perfect actually.

Thanks again!

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