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Monkey See, Monkey Do Driver Behaviour #4760313
05/17/18 08:00 PM
05/17/18 08:00 PM
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Toronto, Canada
George7941 Offline OP
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Early morning, lightly travelled city road. I have to turn right at the intersection and it is a long wait at the intersection for the lights to go through their cycle because the lights for the intersecting street are staggered and the opposing traffic has an advanced green. When I am in the right lane, what invariably happens is that if the light turns red the blue car sees me in the right lane and will invariably switch over to the right lane and then I end up delayed by a whole traffic light cycle. Not sure why drivers do that but my conjecture is 1) Copy what other drivers do and 2) Get ahead of the other driver, thus establishing your dominance.

It took me a long time to figure this out but the thing to do is to come up to the intersection in the middle lane. I find that this way the blue car stays in the middle lane. I only change over to the right lane to make my turn after the blue car has stopped for the light. Last week I had the blue car in the right lane and he actually switched over to the middle lane when he noticed me in the middle lane. Of course that was exactly what I wanted and I made my turn without delay.


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Staying out of the right lane a lot.
Re: Monkey See, Monkey Do Driver Behaviour [Re: George7941] #4760353
05/17/18 08:42 PM
05/17/18 08:42 PM
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Deplorable in apple valley, ca
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Last week I had a younger female get on my bumper in the slow lane. Jeep only does about 65 comfortably. She hung there about 10 ft of my bumper staring straight ahead with no other traffic around. She finally passed us and gave me the finger as she passed.


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Re: Monkey See, Monkey Do Driver Behaviour [Re: George7941] #4760372
05/17/18 08:48 PM
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Las Vegas
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That's because she's from San Bernadino, Chris. I've noticed driving into San Bern all the slow traffic clogs the left lanes, and if you want to go fast, you stay in the (clear) right lane.
You were clogging up, what is to San Berdo people, the passing lane. grin

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Re: Monkey See, Monkey Do Driver Behaviour [Re: George7941] #4760398
05/17/18 09:11 PM
05/17/18 09:11 PM
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Canadia
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I notice a similar behaviour in parking lots. I tend to park in the back 40, as I would much rather walk an extra few feet than have my vehicle dinged. When I do this, it almost invariably attracts someone else to park near me.


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Re: Monkey See, Monkey Do Driver Behaviour [Re: fsdork] #4760406
05/17/18 09:18 PM
05/17/18 09:18 PM
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Toronto, Canada
George7941 Offline OP
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You are right! Whatever the other drivers are doing, this one does not want to be left out of. Herd instinct, I suppose.


2006 GMC Sierra 4.3l, NV3500,G80 , Mobil 1 5W30, Dexcool.
1987 BMW R80 - sold
2015 Honda CBR300R

Staying out of the right lane a lot.
Re: Monkey See, Monkey Do Driver Behaviour [Re: fsdork] #4760417
05/17/18 09:29 PM
05/17/18 09:29 PM
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midwest
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Originally Posted By: fsdork
I notice a similar behaviour in parking lots. I tend to park in the back 40, as I would much rather walk an extra few feet than have my vehicle dinged. When I do this, it almost invariably attracts someone else to park near me.


I would park next to you. I assume the person who parks off on their own is careful with their vehicle, and so am I. Also I won't leave a buffer space because THAT is where some idiot will park.

Re: Monkey See, Monkey Do Driver Behaviour [Re: Chris142] #4760433
05/17/18 09:51 PM
05/17/18 09:51 PM
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North Carolina
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Originally Posted By: Chris142
Last week I had a younger female get on my bumper in the slow lane. Jeep only does about 65 comfortably. She hung there about 10 ft of my bumper staring straight ahead with no other traffic around. She finally passed us and gave me the finger as she passed.


Seems all too common around here...I guess it's because there are a lot of 2 lane country roads that don't allow for passing. If I'm going the speed limit or 5 over, too bad, touch my bumper, I could use a new one. Jeeps aren't designed to go fast. You can do that all day and I'm not going to speed up. Tired of doing the brake checking I've decided to install a high wattage LED light bar for a "backup" light. My finger might accidentally flip it on during certain situations...

Re: Monkey See, Monkey Do Driver Behaviour [Re: JamesBond] #4760437
05/17/18 09:54 PM
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Toronto, Canada
George7941 Offline OP
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I had a post here many years ago about a Home Depot parking lot. My credit card had slipped in between the seats, so I parked away from where the other cars were parked. I am half in, half out of my truck rummaging under the seats for my credit card when I hear a beep - this guy in an Aerostar wants to park next to me and wants me to close my drivers door. I could not believe it! All the spots around me were empty but this guy decides he must park next to me. I ignored him and continued looking for my credit card and after waiting for over a minute he finally got the message and decided to park somewhere else.


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2015 Honda CBR300R

Staying out of the right lane a lot.
Re: Monkey See, Monkey Do Driver Behaviour [Re: Chris142] #4760438
05/17/18 09:58 PM
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Phoenix, AZ
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Originally Posted By: Chris142
Last week I had a younger female get on my bumper in the slow lane. Jeep only does about 65 comfortably. She hung there about 10 ft of my bumper staring straight ahead with no other traffic around. She finally passed us and gave me the finger as she passed.
I had that last night in my Jeep. I just let off the gas pedal, which on my Jeep makes it slow down quite a bit. At 45 mph on the interstate they finally passed.


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Re: Monkey See, Monkey Do Driver Behaviour [Re: Nick1994] #4760468
05/17/18 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted By: Nick1994
Originally Posted By: Chris142
Last week I had a younger female get on my bumper in the slow lane. Jeep only does about 65 comfortably. She hung there about 10 ft of my bumper staring straight ahead with no other traffic around. She finally passed us and gave me the finger as she passed.
I had that last night in my Jeep. I just let off the gas pedal, which on my Jeep makes it slow down quite a bit. At 45 mph on the interstate they finally passed.
Exactly. Slower and slower until they get the idea. I usually shake my finger back in forth in the back window in a no no no manner.


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Re: Monkey See, Monkey Do Driver Behaviour [Re: umungus1122] #4760475
05/17/18 10:56 PM
05/17/18 10:56 PM
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North Carolina
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Originally Posted By: umungus1122
I usually shake my finger back in forth in the back window in a no no no manner.

I shake a finger too, but I think I'm sending a different message...

Re: Monkey See, Monkey Do Driver Behaviour [Re: OilFilters] #4760478
05/17/18 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted By: OilFilters
Originally Posted By: umungus1122
I usually shake my finger back in forth in the back window in a no no no manner.

I shake a finger too, but I think I'm sending a different message...


LOL!


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Re: Monkey See, Monkey Do Driver Behaviour [Re: OilFilters] #4760660
05/18/18 07:56 AM
05/18/18 07:56 AM
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Deplorable in apple valley, ca
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Originally Posted By: OilFilters
Originally Posted By: Chris142
Last week I had a younger female get on my bumper in the slow lane. Jeep only does about 65 comfortably. She hung there about 10 ft of my bumper staring straight ahead with no other traffic around. She finally passed us and gave me the finger as she passed.


Seems all too common around here...I guess it's because there are a lot of 2 lane country roads that don't allow for passing. If I'm going the speed limit or 5 over, too bad, touch my bumper, I could use a new one. Jeeps aren't designed to go fast. You can do that all day and I'm not going to speed up. Tired of doing the brake checking I've decided to install a high wattage LED light bar for a "backup" light. My finger might accidentally flip it on during certain situations...
On a 2 lane I will pull off and let them pass. This was on a multi lane freeway with very light traffic.


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Re: Monkey See, Monkey Do Driver Behaviour [Re: George7941] #4760670
05/18/18 08:06 AM
05/18/18 08:06 AM
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Occupied Virginia
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Originally Posted By: George7941
When I am in the right lane, what invariably happens is that if the light turns red the blue car sees me in the right lane and will invariably switch over to the right lane and then I end up delayed by a whole traffic light cycle. Not sure why drivers do that but my conjecture is 1) Copy what other drivers do and 2) Get ahead of the other driver, thus establishing your dominance.

You're over-thinking this and taking it too personally.

Is there someone in front of the blue car? Will moving over into the lane you're in allow them to be first at the light? There's nothing more to it than that. I doubt you're even on their radar and could not care any less that they are blocking anyone from making a right turn.

'establishing your dominance'? Really?

Re: Monkey See, Monkey Do Driver Behaviour [Re: JamesBond] #4760675
05/18/18 08:11 AM
05/18/18 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted By: JamesBond
Originally Posted By: fsdork
I notice a similar behaviour in parking lots. I tend to park in the back 40, as I would much rather walk an extra few feet than have my vehicle dinged. When I do this, it almost invariably attracts someone else to park near me.

I would park next to you. I assume the person who parks off on their own is careful with their vehicle, and so am I. Also I won't leave a buffer space because THAT is where some idiot will park.

I try to park next to other nice cars too, passenger side to passenger side.


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