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#4760174 - 05/17/18 05:35 PM Drain it or keep it?
maverickfhs Offline


Registered: 12/28/16
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For 06 Civic, I reused my A02 OEM Honda Oil filter from last time. Drained old oil and filled it with Valvoline 5W20 synthetic blend.

Currently OLM says 50% and oil has 4100 miles and 5 months old; including short trips as well as 1-2 hrs highway speed drives, but overall combination of both.

While Oil filter has ~10K miles and 13 months old.

1-Should I change oil and filter now? Or

2- Continue another 3000-3500 miles and then replace both in fall?

Your thoughts or advice?
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#4760180 - 05/17/18 05:40 PM Re: Drain it or keep it? [Re: maverickfhs]
SatinSilver Offline


Registered: 01/24/08
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Originally Posted By: maverickfhs
2- Continue another 3000-3500 miles and then replace both in fall?


Honda says it's ok to replace the filter every other oil change. They don't put a 10k mile limit or time interval on the filter.

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#4760190 - 05/17/18 05:51 PM Re: Drain it or keep it? [Re: maverickfhs]
Zee09 Offline


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Take it to 10% on the olm and then do it all!
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#4760193 - 05/17/18 05:52 PM Re: Drain it or keep it? [Re: maverickfhs]
JeffKeryk Offline


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Personally, I would not reuse an oil filter.

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#4760196 - 05/17/18 05:56 PM Re: Drain it or keep it? [Re: maverickfhs]
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My question would be is your Honda affected by fuel dilution? If it is I'd change as much of the oil as I could. Have you ever done a UOA and checked?
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#4760199 - 05/17/18 05:58 PM Re: Drain it or keep it? [Re: JohnnyJohnson]
maverickfhs Offline


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Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
My question would be is your Honda affected by fuel dilution? If it is I'd change as much of the oil as I could. Have you ever done a UOA and checked?


Never done a UOA and also don't think this model R18 engine is affected with fuel dilution.
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#4760202 - 05/17/18 06:00 PM Re: Drain it or keep it? [Re: maverickfhs]
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Just run it down to 10%~20% OLM and change it all then smile
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#4760229 - 05/17/18 06:36 PM Re: Drain it or keep it? [Re: maverickfhs]
newbe46 Offline


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I assume you have been changing the filter every time our drain the oil, this is only a one-off.

I personally wouldn't do it but if you must, I don't think it's a big deal if you re-use a filter for another OCI. Keeping the correct oil level would be more important.

Definitely replace both at the end of this OCI but I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.


Edited by newbe46 (05/17/18 06:37 PM)
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#4760245 - 05/17/18 06:58 PM Re: Drain it or keep it? [Re: maverickfhs]
benjy Offline


Registered: 08/23/10
Posts: 925
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reading on Noria enlightened me as to the value of filter changes being most important, even more so than the best oil!!!!!

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#4760319 - 05/17/18 08:06 PM Re: Drain it or keep it? [Re: maverickfhs]
Ducked Offline


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If I'm understanding correctly, its done 2 OCI's and you want to do three?

Personally, I probably wouldn't.

Only non-destructive ways I can think of to tell would be (a) differential pressure test, which you'd have to build, or (b) back-flush it and see what comes out.

(b) seems to offer the possibility of regenerating the filter, but you'd have to check that your procedure didn't damage it.

If you aren't prepared for the punk technology pioneering involved in (a) or (b), you could change it but cut the old one open and have a look, which might give you a guide for next time.

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#4760368 - 05/17/18 08:48 PM Re: Drain it or keep it? [Re: Ducked]
maverickfhs Offline


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Originally Posted By: Ducked
If I'm understanding correctly, its done 2 OCI's and you want to do three?

Personally, I probably wouldn't.

Only non-destructive ways I can think of to tell would be (a) differential pressure test, which you'd have to build, or (b) back-flush it and see what comes out.

(b) seems to offer the possibility of regenerating the filter, but you'd have to check that your procedure didn't damage it.

If you aren't prepared for the punk technology pioneering involved in (a) or (b), you could change it but cut the old one open and have a look, which might give you a guide for next time.


Not at all, oil filter is on 2nd oil. I would NOT do 3, unless it's a 2K-3K interval.

I am planning to cut this filter though!
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#4760383 - 05/17/18 08:59 PM Re: Drain it or keep it? [Re: maverickfhs]
danez_yoda Offline


Registered: 07/18/09
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Loc: texas
I can never keep track of when i change and when i skipped. I just change them both every time.

If you're asking the question you are worried about it. go ahead and reset the clock and sleep easy.

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#4760389 - 05/17/18 09:02 PM Re: Drain it or keep it? [Re: danez_yoda]
maverickfhs Offline


Registered: 12/28/16
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Loc: VA
Originally Posted By: danez_yoda
I can never keep track of when i change and when i skipped. I just change them both every time.

If you're asking the question you are worried about it. go ahead and reset the clock and sleep easy.



Well said, from this time. I'll write mileage and date on oil filter with a sharpie or scratch on it.

It'll be a lot easier next time.
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#4760474 - 05/17/18 10:56 PM Re: Drain it or keep it? [Re: maverickfhs]
EdwardC Offline


Registered: 11/14/13
Posts: 1900
Loc: Chicago, IL
Keep it in and keep going. I've left my filter on for 2 oil changes for many thousand miles on my Element (same K24 as your TSX, and I run extended intervals to -2,000mi on the OLM with synthetic), which totals to over 14,000mi on the filter without significantly elevated silicon in the UOA. I've done the same on my wife's old 2009 Civic with the R18.

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3721975/Honda_A01_14,226mi._(2_OCI)_Cu

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#4760505 - 05/18/18 12:18 AM Re: Drain it or keep it? [Re: maverickfhs]
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Registered: 02/28/03
Posts: 6003
Loc: Cajun Country, La.
Originally Posted By: maverickfhs
For 06 Civic, I reused my A02 OEM Honda Oil filter from last time. Drained old oil and filled it with Valvoline 5W20 synthetic blend.

Currently OLM says 50% and oil has 4100 miles and 5 months old; including short trips as well as 1-2 hrs highway speed drives, but overall combination of both.

While Oil filter has ~10K miles and 13 months old.

1-Should I change oil and filter now? Or

2- Continue another 3000-3500 miles and then replace both in fall?

Your thoughts or advice?


Install a new oil filter at EVERY oil change!

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