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Re: 2006 Buick Lucerne [Re: E150GT] #4759768 05/17/18 10:18 AM
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Older models are hard for dealers to sell because the finance companies they use almost all have a hard limit on the age of the car. They wouldn't consider writing a loan for a 12 year old model regardless of miles. So age does trump miles when it comes to book value.

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Originally Posted By: mk378
Older models are hard for dealers to sell because the finance companies they use almost all have a hard limit on the age of the car. They wouldn't consider writing a loan for a 12 year old model regardless of miles. So age does trump miles when it comes to book value.


Not for cash buyers, which has always been the case for me. And there are enough cash buyers out there to gobble up all these cream puffs quickly...while the other 95% of dreamer priced cars sit unsold until months later when reality kicks in for the sellers. Hey, this Buick Lucerne could be hiding a major problem or two. Who knows if $6K is a great price before you go and see it. 90% of the cars advertised are over-priced. Just because someone is a co-worker doesn't mean they should get more money for the same car. Check the market out for the best Lucernes across the country.

Here's a nice value in my area that just popped up - grandma's 20K mile mint and loaded 2001 Lincoln Towncar needing nothing for $5900. I'd be all over that if I just didn't by a Lincoln. The last 24K mile Lincoln I bought was $9,000 back in 2009. Even better deal at $6K today imo.

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Completed Lucerne listings on Ebay

Sold listings on Ebay

There was a 2011 Lucerne on Ebay with 40K miles bid up to $6900. Seller had a list/BIN price around $11K. Might have scared off real bidders. In any event at $6900 this would be a far better deal than a 2006 with less miles. Ebay sold listings give a pretty good idea what private party sales are bringing.


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Re: 2006 Buick Lucerne [Re: mk378] #4759840 05/17/18 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted By: mk378
My friend has one. The engine and transmission design has a very solid reputation. The rest of the car is not bad either. One known weak point is the plastic coolant elbows. Replace them before they break. This is simple to do while the coolant is out.

You know the tires are bad, also look for rusted brake rotors, which commonly result from infrequent use. Stuff like this is a negotiating point to lower the price.


Last June we bought a 2006 Buick Lacrosse 3.8l for $ 6250 out the door . Discovered the coolant elbow issue , so I changed them for metal elbows , akk heater hoses & all radiator hoses , plus thermostat . Added 1 gallon of new 100% Dexcool . Services fluids , filters , oil / filter change .

The car had 37,000 and change on the odometer . Very happy with the deal ( good tires , brakes , suspension , A/C , transmission , engine , interior & exterior ) .

Unless something is obviously wrong with the Lucerne , I would styart counting out the $$$ .


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Re: 2006 Buick Lucerne [Re: E150GT] #4759890 05/17/18 12:25 PM
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If it's legit then +1 on good deal

Re: 2006 Buick Lucerne [Re: E150GT] #4759903 05/17/18 12:32 PM
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Interesting...

I asked about the Lucerne and 3.9L some months ago and the the consensus was no go. Not just this particular engine, but the vehicle in general:
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4621583/GM_3900_engine.#Post4621583

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Re: 2006 Buick Lucerne [Re: JTK] #4759985 05/17/18 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted By: JTK
Interesting...

I asked about the Lucerne and 3.9L some months ago and the the consensus was no go. Not just this particular engine, but the vehicle in general:
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4621583/GM_3900_engine.#Post4621583

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Actually, it was pretty much all regarding the 3.9 and 3.5L engine, which isn't relevant here. In fact, your thread title and question had nothing to do with the car as a whole, rather the question was aimed at the 3.9L engine specifically.

What was said regarding the car as a whole in your thread still holds true as to what's been echoed in this thread, mainly regarding the transmission- the 4T65E can be the weak link when neglected, but can also be pretty stout with regular maintenance.

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I would be all over this car. The series II was one of the greatest V6's ever in my opinion, the Series III in this car only improved on it, unless you don't like electronic throttle which most 2005+ cars will have anyways.

The 4T65E is not a bad transmission unless it's neglected. It's not a fluid for life transmission by any means-- change the filter and fluid every 30-50k, and most will reach close to 200k without issue. They tend to fail around 160-200k regardless of maintenance (in my experience), or sooner if the fluid is never changed which is the case with most cars. There are plenty of makes with worse transmissions out there for that model year-- The Honda Accord/Odyssey/et al 5 speed comes to mind.


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Re: 2006 Buick Lucerne [Re: Char Baby] #4760172 05/17/18 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted By: Char Baby
Inspect the car thoroughly even with a friend/car parson or mechanic. If it looks good, get it. Maybe even offer le$$!...without slapping them in the face with too low of an offer.

Also, look up the price on a reputable site(Kelley Blue Book/Edmunds.com/Consumer Reports). Who knows, they may be asking too high.


Spend $70 to $100 dollars and have a licensed mechanic go over the vehicle and list any issues. Well worth it if your going to spend 5K to 6K.

I recently did that on a Forester I was interested in. The mechanic told me that it needed about $2500 in upkeep maintenance that the seller neglected, as well as a new set of tires. He said he would pass if it was him.I PASSED, but felt it was worthwhile to find out this info before purchasing.


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Re: 2006 Buick Lucerne [Re: WyrTwister] #4760177 05/17/18 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted By: WyrTwister
Unless something is obviously wrong with the Lucerne , I would styart counting out the $$$ .


+1, yes I agree start counting out the $$$.

Re: 2006 Buick Lucerne [Re: JustN89] #4760237 05/17/18 05:45 PM
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Interesting...

I asked about the Lucerne and 3.9L some months ago and the the consensus was no go. Not just this particular engine, but the vehicle in general:
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4621583/GM_3900_engine.#Post4621583

Love this place.

Actually, it was pretty much all regarding the 3.9 and 3.5L engine, which isn't relevant here. In fact, your thread title and question had nothing to do with the car as a whole, rather the question was aimed at the 3.9L engine specifically.

What was said regarding the car as a whole in your thread still holds true as to what's been echoed in this thread, mainly regarding the transmission- the 4T65E can be the weak link when neglected, but can also be pretty stout with regular maintenance.


Our Lacrosse has the 3.8l engine . Which , frm what I read was widely produced by GM & fairly well thought of ( except the coolant elbows ) .

Far from an expert , but did not realize GB made a 3.9l engine . I know nothing about it . Live and learn .


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Re: 2006 Buick Lucerne [Re: E150GT] #4760288 05/17/18 06:43 PM
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One of many videos on the GM 3.8l plastic coolant elbows .


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Re: 2006 Buick Lucerne [Re: mk378] #4760358 05/17/18 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted By: mk378
Older models are hard for dealers to sell because the finance companies they use almost all have a hard limit on the age of the car. They wouldn't consider writing a loan for a 12 year old model regardless of miles. So age does trump miles when it comes to book value.


Itís semantics in play. I go for a low mileage car, not a newer car of higher mileage, but I still expect a better price because itís older.


If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: 2006 Buick Lucerne [Re: Snagglefoot] #4760622 05/18/18 06:12 AM
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I finally found my Lucerne a couple months ago after a about a year of looking, I was in no hurry though. I was being picky and wanted a certain color with no leather and sunroof and a must was the 3800. It's an 08 with 78k on it and paid $7500 for it. Used cars like this are not cheap around here and sell pretty fast. The car was owned by an older lady and doesn't have one door ding on her. Did I pay to much, probably but I got exactly what I wanted.

I would give the guy the $6k and run before someone else comes along and buys it.


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Re: 2006 Buick Lucerne [Re: 69GTX] #4762128 05/19/18 02:59 PM
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For someone who typically only owns used cars that are 10-15 yrs old, age is not an issue. It comes down to condition, maintenance, and how it was driven.

Everything on the car is already 12 years old. Hoses, belts, fuel lines, etc. It's a bad idea to leave an original timing belt on a 12-year-old car even if it only has 27,000 miles on it. (That's just an example since this engine doesn't have a timing belt.)

Age may not be as big an issue as mileage or how it was driven, but I wouldn't say it's not an issue. Especially in the rust belt, though that's not a problem for the OP's area.

Just wanting to keep the OP on his toes and not have him completely dismiss the age as a non-factor.

Having said that, and of course not knowing the specific history of this specific car, it's hard to ask for a better overall engine. The newer 3.6 that GM has been putting into so many vehicles is a fail compared to this engine. I consider GM's full-size V6 boats like this from the 1990s and 2000s to be great all-around cars. With some problems such as 90s rust and needing a coolant fix. I consider various of the transmissions mediocre, but Honda wasn't doing better around that time either.

Hopefully the size isn't a problem, since it's replacing a Yaris. This is a big car. Good for comfort and gobbling up miles, not as good for parking.

Re: 2006 Buick Lucerne [Re: E150GT] #4766876 05/24/18 11:20 AM
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So I had a chance to check out the car yesterday.
Itís nice. Has a ton of features except the V8 and moonroof.
Everything works and the engine sounds great. The 3.8 must not make a lot of power as it didnít get up
Very well. Thatís ok. All the fluids need to be changed as the brake fluid was dark and the coolant looked clean but pink. I always
Thought dexcool was orange? I am going to buy it. Thanks for all the replies.


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