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Do I need a low profile jack? #4759359
05/16/18 11:44 PM
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Ifixyawata Offline OP
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Shopping through HFs selection of three ton floor Jack's and I'm overwhelmed.. Yeah that easy.

Anyone else have or had a first generation focus... Did you need a low profile jack to get under the car?


2004 Mercury Mountaineer 4.6 M1 High Mileage 10w-40 (Summer)
2001 Ford Focus 2.0 Zetec Pennzoil Euro L 5w-30
Re: Do I need a low profile jack? [Re: Ifixyawata] #4759364
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I have the low profile jack. I think it actually lifts an inch or two higher tban the others. It is handy when you don't have a lot of clearance.


'99 Cavalier 5w 30 SuperTech conventional
'11 Impala 5w 30 Magnatec full synthetic
'12 Colorado 5w 30 Magnatec full synthetic
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Re: Do I need a low profile jack? [Re: Ifixyawata] #4759367
05/17/18 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted By: Ifixyawata

Anyone else have or had a first generation focus... Did you need a low profile jack to get under the car?


I've owned an 03 ZX5, 05 ZX4, and an 07 ZX4 SES
None of them required a low profile jack. Not even for oil changes!


06 Lexus IS350- Wife
88 BMW 325is- Mistress
Re: Do I need a low profile jack? [Re: Ifixyawata] #4759371
05/17/18 12:38 AM
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If you get a long low profile jack you can lift off of things you could only dream of before. No longer will you trash your pinchwelds.


03 Jetta AWP/09A 205k kms
Edge 0W40 + Mann 719/30
Re: Do I need a low profile jack? [Re: Ifixyawata] #4759388
05/17/18 02:21 AM
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Low profile jacks can help but it's just as easy (and a lot cheaper) to drive onto a piece of wood to get more clearance under the car, that way your normal height jack does not need to be replaced and you save money!


Cable ties should hold it
Re: Do I need a low profile jack? [Re: Ifixyawata] #4759421
05/17/18 05:30 AM
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How easy is it to measure?

A board is nice, but sounds like a pain.

Buy once and cry once if you need it.


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02 Volvo S60 2.4T 177k M1 0w40 Mahle OX149D
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Re: Do I need a low profile jack? [Re: Lolvoguy] #4759435
05/17/18 05:58 AM
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Ifixyawata Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Olas
Low profile jacks can help but it's just as easy (and a lot cheaper) to drive onto a piece of wood to get more clearance under the car, that way your normal height jack does not need to be replaced and you save money!


I am replacing my normal-height jack because several parts of it are worn out.

Originally Posted By: maxdustington
If you get a long low profile jack you can lift off of things you could only dream of before. No longer will you trash your pinchwelds.


The long-reach ones are a little over my budget for this purchase, but I like the idea of them.

Originally Posted By: Lolvoguy
Originally Posted By: Ifixyawata

Anyone else have or had a first generation focus... Did you need a low profile jack to get under the car?


I've owned an 03 ZX5, 05 ZX4, and an 07 ZX4 SES
None of them required a low profile jack. Not even for oil changes!


Ever get a jack under there with a flat tire?

My main concern is getting something that will fit under the Focus (my current regular height jack does) and also lift enough, height-wise, to be useful on the Mountaineer.


2004 Mercury Mountaineer 4.6 M1 High Mileage 10w-40 (Summer)
2001 Ford Focus 2.0 Zetec Pennzoil Euro L 5w-30
Re: Do I need a low profile jack? [Re: Ifixyawata] #4759567
05/17/18 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted By: Ifixyawata
Originally Posted By: Olas
Low profile jacks can help but it's just as easy (and a lot cheaper) to drive onto a piece of wood to get more clearance under the car, that way your normal height jack does not need to be replaced and you save money!


I am replacing my normal-height jack because several parts of it are worn out.

Originally Posted By: maxdustington
If you get a long low profile jack you can lift off of things you could only dream of before. No longer will you trash your pinchwelds.


The long-reach ones are a little over my budget for this purchase, but I like the idea of them.

Originally Posted By: Lolvoguy
Originally Posted By: Ifixyawata

Anyone else have or had a first generation focus... Did you need a low profile jack to get under the car?


I've owned an 03 ZX5, 05 ZX4, and an 07 ZX4 SES
None of them required a low profile jack. Not even for oil changes!


Ever get a jack under there with a flat tire?

My main concern is getting something that will fit under the Focus (my current regular height jack does) and also lift enough, height-wise, to be useful on the Mountaineer.

I like my low profile jack as it allows you to put a board on the jack to spread out the load, so I jack the whole side, or rear of the Focus up without worrying about bending something. To get both tires off the ground on the Outback I have to use a short chuck of 4x6 on top of the jack which seems quite stable. I also use it under the lawn tractor, trailer axles, even picking up my wooden shed to relevel it. I'd never get a normal jack again anyways.
They publish the lowest height and then the lift range so you can get a good idea how high it will lift.


07 Focus ZXW, 5spd manual, 218km M1 5W30
18 Outback 2.5 CVT 15km 0W20
Re: Do I need a low profile jack? [Re: IndyIan] #4759591
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Ifixyawata Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: IndyIan

I like my low profile jack as it allows you to put a board on the jack to spread out the load, so I jack the whole side, or rear of the Focus up without worrying about bending something. To get both tires off the ground on the Outback I have to use a short chuck of 4x6 on top of the jack which seems quite stable. I also use it under the lawn tractor, trailer axles, even picking up my wooden shed to relevel it. I'd never get a normal jack again anyways.
They publish the lowest height and then the lift range so you can get a good idea how high it will lift.


Looking more at what HF has on sale in the 3-ton range, I was first tempted by the standard profile 'Daytona' brand but it looks like the min height on that one is 5" whereas the regular gray HF low-profile jack has 2-7/8" min height with a higher max lift. I think this is the one I will get.

Last edited by Ifixyawata; 05/17/18 08:49 AM.

2004 Mercury Mountaineer 4.6 M1 High Mileage 10w-40 (Summer)
2001 Ford Focus 2.0 Zetec Pennzoil Euro L 5w-30
Re: Do I need a low profile jack? [Re: Ifixyawata] #4759651
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I used a regular height 3 ton floor jack with a hockey puck for a jack pad on my 2011


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00 Jeep Cherokee
01 Ford F-350 XL 4x4 5M
Re: Do I need a low profile jack? [Re: Ifixyawata] #4759698
05/17/18 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted By: Ifixyawata
Originally Posted By: IndyIan

I like my low profile jack as it allows you to put a board on the jack to spread out the load, so I jack the whole side, or rear of the Focus up without worrying about bending something. To get both tires off the ground on the Outback I have to use a short chuck of 4x6 on top of the jack which seems quite stable. I also use it under the lawn tractor, trailer axles, even picking up my wooden shed to relevel it. I'd never get a normal jack again anyways.
They publish the lowest height and then the lift range so you can get a good idea how high it will lift.


Looking more at what HF has on sale in the 3-ton range, I was first tempted by the standard profile 'Daytona' brand but it looks like the min height on that one is 5" whereas the regular gray HF low-profile jack has 2-7/8" min height with a higher max lift. I think this is the one I will get.

That one looks good to me, lifts higher than mine as well. Is there an actual disadvantage to a low profile one? I don't think I'm going to wear mine out anyways.


07 Focus ZXW, 5spd manual, 218km M1 5W30
18 Outback 2.5 CVT 15km 0W20
Re: Do I need a low profile jack? [Re: Ifixyawata] #4759707
05/17/18 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted By: Ifixyawata
Shopping through HFs selection of three ton floor Jack's and I'm overwhelmed.. Yeah that easy.


One thing to be aware of is you may see 2-3 jacks with the same specs, price, etc - they are the "same" jack overall. They will be identical except for the HF part number assigned to them. Apparently that indicates that different vendors produce the same part for HF but as far as you or I are concerned, they're the same. Just in case this is part of the overwhelming issue....

Re: Do I need a low profile jack? [Re: hallstevenson] #4759722
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Originally Posted By: hallstevenson
Originally Posted By: Ifixyawata
Shopping through HFs selection of three ton floor Jack's and I'm overwhelmed.. Yeah that easy.


One thing to be aware of is you may see 2-3 jacks with the same specs, price, etc - they are the "same" jack overall. They will be identical except for the HF part number assigned to them. Apparently that indicates that different vendors produce the same part for HF but as far as you or I are concerned, they're the same. Just in case this is part of the overwhelming issue....


The Yellow HF Daytona was the same one that Snap-On sold. Snap-On sued HF because their advertising compared to two closely. I am not sure on the actual circumstances, as I was following the thread on the garage journal a year or two ago.

All floor jacks are made overseas now, based on similar designs (Hein Werner bought Walker way back when and immediately replaced their line with Walker's designs).


03 Jetta AWP/09A 205k kms
Edge 0W40 + Mann 719/30
Re: Do I need a low profile jack? [Re: hallstevenson] #4759759
05/17/18 11:14 AM
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Ifixyawata Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: hallstevenson

One thing to be aware of is you may see 2-3 jacks with the same specs, price, etc - they are the "same" jack overall. They will be identical except for the HF part number assigned to them. Apparently that indicates that different vendors produce the same part for HF but as far as you or I are concerned, they're the same. Just in case this is part of the overwhelming issue....


It might be a contributor, LOL, but I had always wondered why separate part numbers for two items that had the same pictures, specs and everything. I also hate when those two separate items have different reviews. They need to use the same part number with a -1 -2 etc instead of an entirely different number.

And I wish they would add a compare feature!

Last edited by Ifixyawata; 05/17/18 11:14 AM.

2004 Mercury Mountaineer 4.6 M1 High Mileage 10w-40 (Summer)
2001 Ford Focus 2.0 Zetec Pennzoil Euro L 5w-30
Re: Do I need a low profile jack? [Re: Ifixyawata] #4759907
05/17/18 01:33 PM
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The point of the distinct part numbers is so that THEY can track quality, returns, etc based on the specific vendor.

I don't know how HF's review system works in that does it require proof that you purchased the item you're reviewing (some sites add a note like "Confirmed buyer"). Customers may add a review to the "wrong" part # if they only look at the description and it matches their purchase close enough.

An example of what I'm referring to is their "3 ton Low Profile Steel Heavy Duty Floor Jack with Rapid Pump". There are (3) of them listed, all for $97.99. They do have (3) different item numbers, separate reviews, and so on.

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