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20w50 film strength #4759261
05/16/18 08:36 PM
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Which 20w50 oil has the highest film strength?
Does 20w50 have higher film strength than 0w40?
Is 0w40 Mobil 1 safe to use in my 1980 Porsche 924 which calls for 20w50?

Re: 20w50 film strength [Re: MikeyWikey] #4759263
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Is it air cooled? Iím guessing so, and if it is I would definitely stick to a 50 weight oil. Especially in a car that is designed to be driven spiritedly.


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Re: 20w50 film strength [Re: 69Torino] #4759288
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Originally Posted By: 69Torino
Is it air cooled? Iím guessing so, and if it is I would definitely stick to a 50 weight oil. Especially in a car that is designed to be driven spiritedly.


A 924 is a water-cooled VW/Audi engine with a Porsche badge. Switching from a 50w to a 40w should be no problem.

Re: 20w50 film strength [Re: MikeyWikey] #4759289
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Re: 20w50 film strength [Re: MikeyWikey] #4759306
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Maybe RP XPR 20W50.


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Re: 20w50 film strength [Re: MikeyWikey] #4759308
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Not 0w40, many oil manu's use that weight to be closer to a 5w30 then anything. I'm not saying it isn't safe to use in your car, just a comment on film strength.

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Re: 20w50 film strength [Re: MikeyWikey] #4759319
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I'd use M1 5W-50 or 15W-50 if it were mine and I put it through it's paces. Actually, I'd probably just use a Conventional HDEO like Delo or Delvac 15W-40.


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Re: 20w50 film strength [Re: MikeyWikey] #4759332
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Originally Posted By: MikeyWikey
Which 20w50 oil has the highest film strength?
Does 20w50 have higher film strength than 0w40?
Is 0w40 Mobil 1 safe to use in my 1980 Porsche 924 which calls for 20w50?


Here you go.



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Re: 20w50 film strength [Re: MikeyWikey] #4759337
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Yup, Silver Bottle VR-1 for street driven engines. It is the good stuff when it comes to these heavier grades. Well known and proven at tracks all across the country every weekend smile


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Re: 20w50 film strength [Re: MikeyWikey] #4759348
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I've never heard a bad thing about VR-1 and we sell a TON of it at work at the parts store. If you wanted a synthetic you could use Royal Purple HPS, it's not that much more. I am no expert in your type of car but I would stick with a 20w-50.

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Re: 20w50 film strength [Re: MikeyWikey] #4759583
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Valvoline VR1 20W-50 is great, that Porsche will be more than happy on it!


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Re: 20w50 film strength [Re: MikeyWikey] #4759711
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Mobil 1 15W-50 would be perfect for this application. Itís a very robust oil. Itís essentially a synthetic 20W-50. Same thickness, better cold properties.


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Re: 20w50 film strength [Re: MikeyWikey] #4760062
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Ignore the thin oil guys on this one! Run the VR1 20W50!! That old motor was designed for it and needs the additives that are exempt from todays junk PCMO's


Just say NO to thin oils and M1!
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Re: 20w50 film strength [Re: MikeyWikey] #4760115
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Why in the world are some of you recommending a 20w50 racing oil for a 110 hp VW 4 cylinder?

Any good conventional oil from 40 to 50 wt would be perfect in this. I'm guessing most here don't know what a 924 is.

OP if you already have the 0w40 us it. If you don't , buy a cheap conventional 40-50 wt and run it.


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