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#4758799 - 05/16/18 12:59 PM Redline Oil 0w20 Voa
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Registered: 02/25/14
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#4758807 - 05/16/18 01:04 PM Re: Redline Oil 0w20 Voa [Re: Marco620]
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Thanks for the report!!

Wow. Looks like BIG additives, Mo, B, P, Zn, very nice.
I wonder about how Redline blends their lubes though, or the purity of the bases they receive- the traditional contaminants are rarely ever 0s. There always seems to be trace amounts of Fe, Al, and what's this K, Si and Na? The Si at best could be anti-foaming but that's a lot of polysiloxane for anti-foaming IMO shrug

I love Redline and would never hesitate to use it, but that always kind of bothered me. Is this happening during the blending process?

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#4758825 - 05/16/18 01:24 PM Re: Redline Oil 0w20 Voa [Re: Marco620]
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Yes indeed it looks like the Redline add pack ! Thanks!!!
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#4758896 - 05/16/18 03:11 PM Re: Redline Oil 0w20 Voa [Re: Marco620]
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That was quick. Just two days turnaround.

Lots of silicon in a voa. Hmm
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#4758993 - 05/16/18 05:19 PM Re: Redline Oil 0w20 Voa [Re: PimTac]
CT8 Offline


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Originally Posted By: PimTac
That was quick. Just two days turnaround.

Lots of silicon in a voa. Hmm
Anti foam.
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#4759013 - 05/16/18 05:38 PM Re: Redline Oil 0w20 Voa [Re: Marco620]
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Serious add pack
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#4759037 - 05/16/18 05:59 PM Re: Redline Oil 0w20 Voa [Re: Marco620]
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This is normal Redline 0w20? Those ZDDP levels are nuts for an API SN oil.
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#4759136 - 05/16/18 07:32 PM Re: Redline Oil 0w20 Voa [Re: The Critic]
dgunay Offline


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Originally Posted By: The Critic
This is normal Redline 0w20? Those ZDDP levels are nuts for an API SN oil.


It does not have API SN approval, just "recommended".
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#4759166 - 05/16/18 07:50 PM Re: Redline Oil 0w20 Voa [Re: Marco620]
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Its going back in my car Saturday! Got 12 qts of it.
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#4762914 - 05/20/18 11:40 AM Re: Redline Oil 0w20 Voa [Re: Marco620]
jwa Offline


Registered: 10/13/08
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Loc: Alabama
I was considering using this in my TGDI Honda, but I've read that calcium is a contributor to LSPI and Redline seems to use a lot of calcium.
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#4763129 - 05/20/18 03:43 PM Re: Redline Oil 0w20 Voa [Re: jwa]
dailydriver Offline


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Originally Posted By: jwa
I was considering using this in my TGDI Honda, but I've read that calcium is a contributor to LSPI and Redline seems to use a lot of calcium.


Some have claimed that their calcium (and even less so their low sodium levels) have no causal effect on LSPI, but I am also wary of those sky high levels, and will not chance their 5W-20/5W-30 products in my EcoBoost until they cut down that Ca by at the very LEAST HALF! wink
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#4766691 - 05/24/18 09:32 AM Re: Redline Oil 0w20 Voa [Re: Marco620]
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Good looking oil for sure!!!

Oh, and that calcium caused LSPI is a pure myth... doesn't have a darn thing to do with the oil!!
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#4766708 - 05/24/18 09:41 AM Re: Redline Oil 0w20 Voa [Re: racin4ds]
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Loc: Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: racin4ds
Good looking oil for sure!!!

Oh, and that calcium caused LSPI is a pure myth... doesn't have a darn thing to do with the oil!!


Chevron doesn't seem to think so.

https://www.oronite.com/products/lspi.asp

Originally Posted By: Chevron
Many factors have been demonstrated to impact LSPI, including: engine designs, fuel composition, and lubricant composition. On the lubricant side, the most noticeable impact has been from the detergent chemistry. Oils with higher concentrations of calcium, which is found in many detergent systems, have been shown to increase the frequency of LSPI. The exact chemistry of the detergent is less important to LSPI than the calcium content. Conversely, magnesium-based detergents do not seem to promote LSPI.
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#4771224 - 05/29/18 02:14 PM Re: Redline Oil 0w20 Voa [Re: dailydriver]
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Loc: Michigan
Originally Posted By: dailydriver
Originally Posted By: jwa
I was considering using this in my TGDI Honda, but I've read that calcium is a contributor to LSPI and Redline seems to use a lot of calcium.


Some have claimed that their calcium (and even less so their low sodium levels) have no causal effect on LSPI, but I am also wary of those sky high levels, and will not chance their 5W-20/5W-30 products in my EcoBoost until they cut down that Ca by at the very LEAST HALF! wink


On the other hand, high zddp suppresses LSPI, so maybe it all evens out in this oil.
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#4771409 - 05/29/18 05:18 PM Re: Redline Oil 0w20 Voa [Re: A_Harman]
dailydriver Offline


Registered: 03/14/06
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Originally Posted By: A_Harman
Originally Posted By: dailydriver
Originally Posted By: jwa
I was considering using this in my TGDI Honda, but I've read that calcium is a contributor to LSPI and Redline seems to use a lot of calcium.


Some have claimed that their calcium (and even less so their low sodium levels) have no causal effect on LSPI, but I am also wary of those sky high levels, and will not chance their 5W-20/5W-30 products in my EcoBoost until they cut down that Ca by at the very LEAST HALF! wink


On the other hand, high zddp suppresses LSPI, so maybe it all evens out in this oil.


Just what I was thinking as well, since Dave @ Red Line claims that his company's oils' VERY high calcium content does NOT exacerbate LSPI at all. shrug
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