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Honda 1.5L gdi turbo #4758656
05/16/18 10:39 AM
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The book calls for 0W20. I was thinking Castrol Magnatec or Amsoil SS. I plan on following the olm or 10K interval. Your thoughts please. Thanks.


2015 Tacoma 4.0L 60K (as of 02/23/18)
AMSOIL SS 0W30 / Toyota filter

2018 CRV 1.5L (as of 05/11/18)
Factory fill / Honda filter
Re: Honda 1.5L gdi turbo [Re: ARB1977] #4758665
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Honda's GDI engines have a reputation for fuel dilution of the oil. Consequently, I would keep the OCI's short, and not spend extra money on a boutique oil. Castrol Magnatec, then. Do a few oil analyses and see if there is fuel dilution, then make a decision on perhaps going up to 30 weight to compensate.


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Re: Honda 1.5L gdi turbo [Re: ARB1977] #4758668
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Your CRV is the top-rated one in it's segment! Good choice. Its not only GDI, its also turbo'ed, like my '18 Equinox 1.5L as well.
Honda is having a lot of trouble with fuel dilution in some of those engines, so I'd recommend going with 0w30 Mobil1 AFE. Its only a little bit thicker, not much, and it does give a little more margin for the fuel dilution to lower viscosity during the oil change interval.
http://www.classlawdc.com/2018/04/13/honda-cr-v-and-civic-oil-dilution-class-action-investigation/

Change the oil at 3,000 miles to get past the break-in period and satisfy Honda's recommendation to have the high-moly factory oil for a while.
Then the 3,000 mile oil change will flush out the metal wear products.
After 3,000 miles, go to a normal oil change interval according to the owner's manual using Mobil1 AFE 0w30 and a Fram Ultra oil filter.
Use the 0w30 forever until you prove to yourself that your oil level doesn't rise on the dipstick due to fuel dilution. If it does not, then go back to using 0w20, preferably a dexos1 Gen2, and if you really want the "best" oil, I think that's Ravenol 0w20 with moly+tungsten+esters for FM in a PAO/POE base (no GroupIII).

Re: Honda 1.5L gdi turbo [Re: A_Harman] #4758669
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Originally Posted By: A_Harman
Honda's GDI engines have a reputation for fuel dilution of the oil. Consequently, I would keep the OCI's short, and not spend extra money on a boutique oil. Castrol Magnatec, then. Do a few oil analyses and see if there is fuel dilution, then make a decision on perhaps going up to 30 weight to compensate.


Agreed. These engines have had some oil related failures both here and overseas. I suggest no more than 5000 mile OCI's. I also suggest a slightly higher viscosity.

Interestingly, owners of 1.5t's in Arizona are having fuel dilution and wiping out camshafts due to highly diluted uber thin oil.

EDIT: Some are saying 3000 mile intervals are as long as they can go.

Last edited by Cujet; 05/16/18 11:04 AM.

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Re: Honda 1.5L gdi turbo [Re: ARB1977] #4758670
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Mobil 1 EP, Mobil 1 AFE or Pennzoil Platinum in 0W20 would be my choice. I'd probably use the ones that have the best rebates available.


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Re: Honda 1.5L gdi turbo [Re: ARB1977] #4758672
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0W-20 at Severe Service interval for the reasons given above.


'18 Sportage LX AWD Pennzoil HM 5w20
'13 Santa Fe Sport 2.0T Castrol GTX Magnatec 5w30
Re: Honda 1.5L gdi turbo [Re: A_Harman] #4758683
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Originally Posted By: A_Harman
Honda's GDI engines have a reputation for fuel dilution of the oil. Consequently, I would keep the OCI's short, and not spend extra money on a boutique oil. Castrol Magnatec, then. Do a few oil analyses and see if there is fuel dilution, then make a decision on perhaps going up to 30 weight to compensate.




Good advice here. I would limit the oci to 5000 miles.


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Re: Honda 1.5L gdi turbo [Re: ARB1977] #4758689
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0w20 in Dexos 1 gen 2 and follow the OLM. The D1G2 should help with keeping the DI valves cleaner.

Re: Honda 1.5L gdi turbo [Re: ARB1977] #4758706
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UOA at 50% OLM and action accordingly.

Re: Honda 1.5L gdi turbo [Re: Cujet] #4758710
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Originally Posted By: Cujet
Interestingly, owners of 1.5t's in Arizona are having fuel dilution and wiping out camshafts due to highly diluted uber thin oil.
Wow, Honda has some issues (& class-action lawyers!) to deal with. That's why I say change the factory-fill out at 3k miles or 3 months and put in Mobil1 AFE 0w30. That declares it guilty of fuel dilution before being proved innocent.
If found innocent of dilution from the level not rising on the dipstick over several thousand miles, then go to 0w20, but not before. To be on the wear-safe side.

Re: Honda 1.5L gdi turbo [Re: ARB1977] #4758734
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[censored] that sucks. Hopefully Honda will come up with a plan to combat the fuel related issues. Less than 500 miles and the wife gets 27 mpgs. Ill stick to 0W20 but keep the interval to 5K. Thank god we bought the 100K warranty.


2015 Tacoma 4.0L 60K (as of 02/23/18)
AMSOIL SS 0W30 / Toyota filter

2018 CRV 1.5L (as of 05/11/18)
Factory fill / Honda filter
Re: Honda 1.5L gdi turbo [Re: Cujet] #4758738
05/16/18 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted By: Cujet
These engines have had some oil related failures both here and overseas.


Do you have link to a real world example to support your statement?


2016 Honda Pilot 3.5V6 PP 0W20
2017 Honda Civic 1.5T Amsoil SS 5W30
Re: Honda 1.5L gdi turbo [Re: ARB1977] #4758745
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http://www.crvownersclub.com/forums/14-p...s/168018?page=5

I called my local Honda today and I got an answer. Due to the gasoline getting into my oil. The engine cylinders have been damaged and shavings we're found in the oil

Last edited by nap; 05/16/18 12:18 PM.
Re: Honda 1.5L gdi turbo [Re: ARB1977] #4758749
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Castrol 0w40 until the dilution abates - if ever. With the way those engines are carrying on, 0w40 would a mid weight 30 after a few 100 miles, a 20 at 5000.


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Re: Honda 1.5L gdi turbo [Re: ARB1977] #4758750
05/16/18 12:18 PM
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It looks like crvownersclub.com is full of threads regarding fuel dilution causing major problems. One guy was apparently told that he is getting a new cylinder head and that he will need to get an oil change every 500 miles, while another poster reports that Honda has had his CR-V for over 80 days. Looks like the fuel dilution issue is more prevalent than I thought.

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