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What would you do? #4758645
05/16/18 09:28 AM
05/16/18 09:28 AM
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San Antonio, Texas
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2002 Chevy Express 1500 Conversion Van w/5.7L, 218,000 miles on it. I bought it two years ago for $5K. Put $1,200 into it after purchase getting the intake manifold gasket replaced, doesn't leak a drop of anything or use oil. Engine and all mechanicals run great, I pulled a small rv trailer just fine - A/C just went out. Reputable A/C repair says the compressor froze up and found three other leaks in the system. To fix the whole thing the right way, with their 2 year warranty is $2,100.

A/C down here in South Texas is a must, so If I don't fix it I'm going to sell it. Might get $2k for it.

What would you do? Fix the A/C? Sell it?


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Re: What would you do? [Re: sasilverbullet] #4758660
05/16/18 09:46 AM
05/16/18 09:46 AM
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Taiwan
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If its a must then you must.

Its a must here too, but I dont use it and now am scared to do so, since I assume it could be damaged by use after being so long unused. I used to ride a motorcycle in the heat here so a non-aicon car is LOOXYURY by comparison.

You know and like the car and would lose money by selling it as is. I assume DIY isn't an option though I know bugger-all about aircon.

Seems a no-brainer to me.

Last edited by Ducked; 05/16/18 09:48 AM.
Re: What would you do? [Re: sasilverbullet] #4758664
05/16/18 09:51 AM
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I'd get another opinion and estimate, before spending $2,100.


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Re: What would you do? [Re: sasilverbullet] #4758677
05/16/18 10:03 AM
05/16/18 10:03 AM
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If you were to sell, what would you replace it with? and for how much?

I'm thinking it's better to fix the devil you know than to partner up with a new unknown one.


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Re: What would you do? [Re: sasilverbullet] #4758678
05/16/18 10:05 AM
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AC in Texas is a must. Do you like the van a lot? The warranty is good; 2 years. If you like the van, I say get it done, but get at least one more quote. You're kind of trapped with it anyway; how much would it be worth trying to sell it in Texas with AC that doesn't work? Probably $2000 less.

Last edited by A_Harman; 05/16/18 10:06 AM.

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Re: What would you do? [Re: sasilverbullet] #4758690
05/16/18 10:15 AM
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San Antonio, Texas
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Thanks for the inputs!

While I was typing up the post I realized I need to do it. So I called a few minutes ago and the guy said less than $2k, so I said yes, A/C will be fixed with a 2 yr warranty.

Good to go!


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Re: What would you do? [Re: sasilverbullet] #4758715
05/16/18 10:41 AM
05/16/18 10:41 AM
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Deplorable in apple valley, ca
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$2k sounds about what I would charge to do a major AC job on a van. And especially if they must remove the interior to access the rear unit. Very labor intensive job.

If you have a good van with no other issues you cant replace the van for that amount. Think of it as only 4 payments on a new van.


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Re: What would you do? [Re: sasilverbullet] #4758746
05/16/18 11:16 AM
05/16/18 11:16 AM
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Upstate NY
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Originally Posted By: sasilverbullet
2002 Chevy Express 1500 Conversion Van w/5.7L, 218,000 miles on it. I bought it two years ago for $5K. Put $1,200 into it after purchase getting the intake manifold gasket replaced, doesn't leak a drop of anything or use oil. Engine and all mechanicals run great, I pulled a small rv trailer just fine - A/C just went out. Reputable A/C repair says the compressor froze up and found three other leaks in the system. To fix the whole thing the right way, with their 2 year warranty is $2,100.

A/C down here in South Texas is a must, so If I don't fix it I'm going to sell it. Might get $2k for it.

What would you do? Fix the A/C? Sell it?


Get a second estimate. Ask about a rebuild or reman compressor. What actually went, the compressor or clutch? Can they replace just the clutch. If the compressor seized then there will likely be metal fragments in the system that need to be cleaned and other parts replaced. Ask about replacing all the seals there are not that many. They are normally 50 cent o-rings.

When you go to sell or junk a car you will look back and say "I wish I had not done that xxxx repair. It was money wasted".


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Re: What would you do? [Re: sasilverbullet] #4758788
05/16/18 11:52 AM
05/16/18 11:52 AM
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Nokesville, VA
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Originally Posted By: sasilverbullet
Reputable A/C repair says the compressor froze up


Every instance I've seen where the compressor or clutch froze up, it broke the serpentine belt driving it. Shredded it good.

If that doesn't happen, then I would expect that you'd get a ton of smoke and a really stinky burning smell out of the clutch.

Does the clutch smell burnt? Show any evidence of heat damage?

Last edited by brianl703; 05/16/18 11:52 AM.
Re: What would you do? [Re: sasilverbullet] #4758803
05/16/18 12:02 PM
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Are you able to do any of the work yourself to curb costs a little?

Re: What would you do? [Re: brianl703] #4758811
05/16/18 12:09 PM
05/16/18 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted By: brianl703
Originally Posted By: sasilverbullet
Reputable A/C repair says the compressor froze up


Every instance I've seen where the compressor or clutch froze up, it broke the serpentine belt driving it. Shredded it good.



Don't you mean compressor AND clutch freeze up? Because if only one freezes up, it's really not a problem. Yes, I have seen one where the clutch and compressor froze up.

Re: What would you do? [Re: mrsilv04] #4758826
05/16/18 12:24 PM
05/16/18 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
I'd get another opinion and estimate, before spending $2,100.


+1; otherwise solid vehicle and must-have-AC climate means a repair...also agree with post above that replacing would cost more...


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Re: What would you do? [Re: Donald] #4758862
05/16/18 01:17 PM
05/16/18 01:17 PM
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Deplorable in apple valley, ca
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Originally Posted By: Donald
Originally Posted By: sasilverbullet
2002 Chevy Express 1500 Conversion Van w/5.7L, 218,000 miles on it. I bought it two years ago for $5K. Put $1,200 into it after purchase getting the intake manifold gasket replaced, doesn't leak a drop of anything or use oil. Engine and all mechanicals run great, I pulled a small rv trailer just fine - A/C just went out. Reputable A/C repair says the compressor froze up and found three other leaks in the system. To fix the whole thing the right way, with their 2 year warranty is $2,100.

A/C down here in South Texas is a must, so If I don't fix it I'm going to sell it. Might get $2k for it.

What would you do? Fix the A/C? Sell it?


Get a second estimate. Ask about a rebuild or reman compressor. What actually went, the compressor or clutch? Can they replace just the clutch. If the compressor seized then there will likely be metal fragments in the system that need to be cleaned and other parts replaced. Ask about replacing all the seals there are not that many. They are normally 50 cent o-rings.

When you go to sell or junk a car you will look back and say "I wish I had not done that xxxx repair. It was money wasted".
stay away from rebuilt compressors!


02 Wrangler carlube 5w30
87 F250 traveler 15w40
07 fjcruiser Chevron 10w30
Z400 castrol T 10w40
Can am maveric edge 5w40
57 case tractor 15w40
Re: What would you do? [Re: Chris142] #4758872
05/16/18 01:34 PM
05/16/18 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted By: Chris142
$2k sounds about what I would charge to do a major AC job on a van. And especially if they must remove the interior to access the rear unit. Very labor intensive job.

If you have a good van with no other issues you cant replace the van for that amount. Think of it as only 4 payments on a new van.


This is true except with 200k miles, another expensive repair might be right around the corner.


Without data you're just another person with an opinion. W. E. Deming

2003 Corolla 250,000 miles (RIP)
2004 Corolla 125,000 miles
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Re: What would you do? [Re: Leo99] #4758904
05/16/18 02:17 PM
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If your "another expensive repair" is more than four months from this one, you're saving money versus replacing the van.


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