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#4758645 - 05/16/18 10:28 AM What would you do?
sasilverbullet Offline


Registered: 08/22/04
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Loc: San Antonio, Texas
2002 Chevy Express 1500 Conversion Van w/5.7L, 218,000 miles on it. I bought it two years ago for $5K. Put $1,200 into it after purchase getting the intake manifold gasket replaced, doesn't leak a drop of anything or use oil. Engine and all mechanicals run great, I pulled a small rv trailer just fine - A/C just went out. Reputable A/C repair says the compressor froze up and found three other leaks in the system. To fix the whole thing the right way, with their 2 year warranty is $2,100.

A/C down here in South Texas is a must, so If I don't fix it I'm going to sell it. Might get $2k for it.

What would you do? Fix the A/C? Sell it?
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#4758660 - 05/16/18 10:46 AM Re: What would you do? [Re: sasilverbullet]
Ducked Offline


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If its a must then you must.

Its a must here too, but I dont use it and now am scared to do so, since I assume it could be damaged by use after being so long unused. I used to ride a motorcycle in the heat here so a non-aicon car is LOOXYURY by comparison.

You know and like the car and would lose money by selling it as is. I assume DIY isn't an option though I know bugger-all about aircon.

Seems a no-brainer to me.


Edited by Ducked (05/16/18 10:48 AM)

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#4758664 - 05/16/18 10:51 AM Re: What would you do? [Re: sasilverbullet]
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I'd get another opinion and estimate, before spending $2,100.
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#4758677 - 05/16/18 11:03 AM Re: What would you do? [Re: sasilverbullet]
supton Offline


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If you were to sell, what would you replace it with? and for how much?

I'm thinking it's better to fix the devil you know than to partner up with a new unknown one.
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#4758678 - 05/16/18 11:05 AM Re: What would you do? [Re: sasilverbullet]
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AC in Texas is a must. Do you like the van a lot? The warranty is good; 2 years. If you like the van, I say get it done, but get at least one more quote. You're kind of trapped with it anyway; how much would it be worth trying to sell it in Texas with AC that doesn't work? Probably $2000 less.


Edited by A_Harman (05/16/18 11:06 AM)
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#4758690 - 05/16/18 11:15 AM Re: What would you do? [Re: sasilverbullet]
sasilverbullet Offline


Registered: 08/22/04
Posts: 1395
Loc: San Antonio, Texas
Thanks for the inputs!

While I was typing up the post I realized I need to do it. So I called a few minutes ago and the guy said less than $2k, so I said yes, A/C will be fixed with a 2 yr warranty.

Good to go!
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#4758715 - 05/16/18 11:41 AM Re: What would you do? [Re: sasilverbullet]
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Loc: Deplorable in apple valley, ca
$2k sounds about what I would charge to do a major AC job on a van. And especially if they must remove the interior to access the rear unit. Very labor intensive job.

If you have a good van with no other issues you cant replace the van for that amount. Think of it as only 4 payments on a new van.
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#4758746 - 05/16/18 12:16 PM Re: What would you do? [Re: sasilverbullet]
Donald Offline


Registered: 03/21/04
Posts: 20367
Loc: Upstate NY
Originally Posted By: sasilverbullet
2002 Chevy Express 1500 Conversion Van w/5.7L, 218,000 miles on it. I bought it two years ago for $5K. Put $1,200 into it after purchase getting the intake manifold gasket replaced, doesn't leak a drop of anything or use oil. Engine and all mechanicals run great, I pulled a small rv trailer just fine - A/C just went out. Reputable A/C repair says the compressor froze up and found three other leaks in the system. To fix the whole thing the right way, with their 2 year warranty is $2,100.

A/C down here in South Texas is a must, so If I don't fix it I'm going to sell it. Might get $2k for it.

What would you do? Fix the A/C? Sell it?


Get a second estimate. Ask about a rebuild or reman compressor. What actually went, the compressor or clutch? Can they replace just the clutch. If the compressor seized then there will likely be metal fragments in the system that need to be cleaned and other parts replaced. Ask about replacing all the seals there are not that many. They are normally 50 cent o-rings.

When you go to sell or junk a car you will look back and say "I wish I had not done that xxxx repair. It was money wasted".
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#4758788 - 05/16/18 12:52 PM Re: What would you do? [Re: sasilverbullet]
brianl703 Offline


Registered: 05/07/04
Posts: 10579
Loc: Nokesville, VA
Originally Posted By: sasilverbullet
Reputable A/C repair says the compressor froze up


Every instance I've seen where the compressor or clutch froze up, it broke the serpentine belt driving it. Shredded it good.

If that doesn't happen, then I would expect that you'd get a ton of smoke and a really stinky burning smell out of the clutch.

Does the clutch smell burnt? Show any evidence of heat damage?


Edited by brianl703 (05/16/18 12:52 PM)

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#4758803 - 05/16/18 01:02 PM Re: What would you do? [Re: sasilverbullet]
NYEngineer Offline


Registered: 12/12/06
Posts: 1513
Loc: NY, NY
Are you able to do any of the work yourself to curb costs a little?

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#4758811 - 05/16/18 01:09 PM Re: What would you do? [Re: brianl703]
zzyzzx Offline


Registered: 05/18/12
Posts: 4333
Loc: Baltimore, Maryland, USA
Originally Posted By: brianl703
Originally Posted By: sasilverbullet
Reputable A/C repair says the compressor froze up


Every instance I've seen where the compressor or clutch froze up, it broke the serpentine belt driving it. Shredded it good.



Don't you mean compressor AND clutch freeze up? Because if only one freezes up, it's really not a problem. Yes, I have seen one where the clutch and compressor froze up.

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#4758826 - 05/16/18 01:24 PM Re: What would you do? [Re: mrsilv04]
JLTD Offline


Registered: 12/15/17
Posts: 517
Loc: US
Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
I'd get another opinion and estimate, before spending $2,100.


+1; otherwise solid vehicle and must-have-AC climate means a repair...also agree with post above that replacing would cost more...
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#4758862 - 05/16/18 02:17 PM Re: What would you do? [Re: Donald]
Chris142 Offline


Registered: 06/05/03
Posts: 16678
Loc: Deplorable in apple valley, ca
Originally Posted By: Donald
Originally Posted By: sasilverbullet
2002 Chevy Express 1500 Conversion Van w/5.7L, 218,000 miles on it. I bought it two years ago for $5K. Put $1,200 into it after purchase getting the intake manifold gasket replaced, doesn't leak a drop of anything or use oil. Engine and all mechanicals run great, I pulled a small rv trailer just fine - A/C just went out. Reputable A/C repair says the compressor froze up and found three other leaks in the system. To fix the whole thing the right way, with their 2 year warranty is $2,100.

A/C down here in South Texas is a must, so If I don't fix it I'm going to sell it. Might get $2k for it.

What would you do? Fix the A/C? Sell it?


Get a second estimate. Ask about a rebuild or reman compressor. What actually went, the compressor or clutch? Can they replace just the clutch. If the compressor seized then there will likely be metal fragments in the system that need to be cleaned and other parts replaced. Ask about replacing all the seals there are not that many. They are normally 50 cent o-rings.

When you go to sell or junk a car you will look back and say "I wish I had not done that xxxx repair. It was money wasted".
stay away from rebuilt compressors!
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#4758872 - 05/16/18 02:34 PM Re: What would you do? [Re: Chris142]
Leo99 Offline


Registered: 03/30/14
Posts: 2951
Loc: NJ
Originally Posted By: Chris142
$2k sounds about what I would charge to do a major AC job on a van. And especially if they must remove the interior to access the rear unit. Very labor intensive job.

If you have a good van with no other issues you cant replace the van for that amount. Think of it as only 4 payments on a new van.


This is true except with 200k miles, another expensive repair might be right around the corner.
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#4758904 - 05/16/18 03:17 PM Re: What would you do? [Re: Leo99]
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Registered: 05/20/13
Posts: 1721
Loc: Saskatchewan, Canada
If your "another expensive repair" is more than four months from this one, you're saving money versus replacing the van.
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