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Maxlife for Honda? #4758205
05/15/18 07:59 PM
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RyanY Offline OP
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This may have been covered before, but I was not able to find it with a search.

The Valvoline PI sheet for maxlife indicates compatibility with DW-1 applications, but the bottle does not. Does anyone here know why there is a discrepancy? (I'm waiting on a response from valvoline)


Last edited by RyanY; 05/15/18 08:17 PM. Reason: Typos

2007 Cadillac CTS 3.6L (Pennzoil Platinum HM 5W-30) >116k

2012 Honda Odyssey EX-L (Pennzoil Platinum 0W-20) >91k
Re: Maxlife for Honda? [Re: RyanY] #4758212
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If you are under warranty, use the official Honda fluid only. If you are out of warranty, use whatever you want. Realize that there are a ton of Odysseys out there that will reach 200k miles on the original transmission fluid.


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Re: Maxlife for Honda? [Re: RyanY] #4758230
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Read the fine print about selling it in California. Valvoline says it’s good for everything including gout. Not the manufacturers.


If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: Maxlife for Honda? [Re: RyanY] #4758248
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Has anyone done a VOA on max life ATF?


If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: Maxlife for Honda? [Re: Charlie2015] #4758250
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Originally Posted By: Charlie2015
If you are under warranty, use the official Honda fluid only. If you are out of warranty, use whatever you want. Realize that there are a ton of Odysseys out there that will reach 200k miles on the original transmission fluid.
My Odyssey weighs over a ton but did not last anywhere near 100k miles on Z-1 only. YMMV. On another issue, to make your engine last, install a device that defeats VCM to avoid serious early engine problems.

Re: Maxlife for Honda? [Re: RyanY] #4758253
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Quote:

Valvoline says it’s good for everything including gout


And pretty much confirmed by everyone who has used it

I have never seen a post where a BITOG'r has returned to the original OEM fluid out of dissatisfaction. (expect user oil changer)


2004 Prius; 102K; ASL
2007 Yaris 78K 0w-40 Castrol
2006 B2300;132K;ALM


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Re: Maxlife for Honda? [Re: RyanY] #4758271
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There is nothing wrong with using it in a Honda smile

That said, Autozone has Castrol Full Synthetic ATF on sale for $5/qt, which does say DW1 on the bottle

Re: Maxlife for Honda? [Re: RyanY] #4758285
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The product data sheet can be updated easier than product labels. Or, they may have updated labels but the bottle you have was packaged before they made the label change.

I noticed that the label says it meets Nissan specs too but the data sheet doesn't mention Nissan.

Re: Maxlife for Honda? [Re: RyanY] #4758287
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I have always been a stickler for Honda OEM fluid and have had great results. It is the only fluid that HONDA approves, for what its worth.


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Re: Maxlife for Honda? [Re: RyanY] #4758313
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Valvoline will say “recommended” rather than approved. DW-1 can be had for $4-$5 a quart if you do some looking. Many people have used Maxlife in Honda’s without any issue. I have several cases of Maxlife bought with the O’Reilly’s $5 off $5 a few years ago but still choose to run OEM fluid. The cost difference is minimal in the long run. I use the Maxlife in My Mazda...and will again if I get the timing belt changed....

Last edited by chevys10; 05/15/18 10:55 PM.

2008 Odyssey EX P P520 Fram Ultra Fil
2007 Accord V6 PP530 Bosch D+ Fil
2000 626 2.5L Synpower 10w30 P1 Fil
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Re: Maxlife for Honda? [Re: RyanY] #4758336
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It doesn't say Mercon V on the bottle either thought their site says it works. I have never used it so I can't say, but at work we sell Maxlife all the time for Mercon V applications and never have any issues reported by customers both retail and commercial (shops)

Last edited by dogememe; 05/15/18 11:31 PM.

2010 Ford Escape FWD 2.5 ~90K Miles
Currently: Royal Purple 5W-30, Wix 51348
I prefer Royal Purple, Valvoline, Castrol, and O'Reilly oils.
Re: Maxlife for Honda? [Re: hallstevenson] #4758394
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RyanY Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: hallstevenson

I noticed that the label says it meets Nissan specs too but the data sheet doesn't mention Nissan.


Sorry I only copied the left half of the data sheet, where the Honda specs were listed. The right side of the sheet lists Nissan Matic-D, J, K, S, & W.


2007 Cadillac CTS 3.6L (Pennzoil Platinum HM 5W-30) >116k

2012 Honda Odyssey EX-L (Pennzoil Platinum 0W-20) >91k
Re: Maxlife for Honda? [Re: Charlie2015] #4758396
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RyanY Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Charlie2015
If you are under warranty, use the official Honda fluid only. If you are out of warranty, use whatever you want. Realize that there are a ton of Odysseys out there that will reach 200k miles on the original transmission fluid.


I am exploring options based on my experience with DW-1. Not bad stuff, but I don't think it is ideal for my needs. A few years ago, I towed a small trailer 800+ miles in summer. The trans seemed to hesitate somewhat during shifts (fluid was fresh, but I don't know how sensitive it is to towing in hot summers with the little Honda ATF cooler). I then switched to Pennzoil Platinum LV at the next fluid change and the shifts were much more consistent, towing or not. VCM is muzzled, so that was not the cause of weird shifts.

I like PPLV, but the problem is that I can only find it at Home Depot, and they only stocked one qt in the past 4 months! The rep said they don't know if they will get more, or if it will be discontinued in the store.


2007 Cadillac CTS 3.6L (Pennzoil Platinum HM 5W-30) >116k

2012 Honda Odyssey EX-L (Pennzoil Platinum 0W-20) >91k
Re: Maxlife for Honda? [Re: RyanY] #4758404
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I've been using Maxlife ATF in my 1997 civic for the past 10 years. No issues with it.

Do you tow with the Odyssey?


2015 Grand Caravan SXT Plus 5w-20 PPPP/Fram Ultra Filter
1997 Honda Civic CX 5w-30 Shell Conventional/Fram Ultra Filter
Re: Maxlife for Honda? [Re: RyanY] #4758406
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Yes several times each summer (2500 lb boat).


2007 Cadillac CTS 3.6L (Pennzoil Platinum HM 5W-30) >116k

2012 Honda Odyssey EX-L (Pennzoil Platinum 0W-20) >91k
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