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#4756619 - 05/14/18 08:00 AM Looking for a Non-DI vehicle that gets 35+ MPG
badtlc Offline


Registered: 06/08/06
Posts: 5124
Loc: KC
I haven't been in the loop on vehicles for a while and I need to start evaluating my options as I think I will be replacing my DD in a year or so. I'm open to cars or SUV/CUVs. My main desires are as follows:

1) Non-DI engine
2) Non turbo
3) 36+ MPG if car and 30+ MPG with AWD if SUV/CUV
4) Non-CVT (This is not a must as I realize that really kills the options, so still suggest one if you like)
5) Buying used would like to get something with <40k miles for <$20k.
6) Large SUVs/Trucks are a no-go.

My dream car was a fully loaded ford fiesta but with them being discontinued they may not be much of an option when I look to buy. I also like the 4cyl Jeep Cherokees.

Hit me with your suggestions, please.


Edited by badtlc (05/14/18 08:13 AM)
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#4756621 - 05/14/18 08:04 AM Re: Looking for a Non-DI vehicle that gets 35+ MPG [Re: badtlc]
Olas Offline


Registered: 12/11/13
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Loc: Manchester, England
Anything smal and light will break 40.

My current daily driver is a B9 Audi A4 (turbo) averaging 44.1mpg
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#4756622 - 05/14/18 08:04 AM Re: Looking for a Non-DI vehicle that gets 35+ MPG [Re: badtlc]
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My son's 2017 hyundai elantra is a 2.0 non DI, non cvt. His gets better mpg than my 2013. He gets 36-40 hwy depending on traffic.
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#4756630 - 05/14/18 08:09 AM Re: Looking for a Non-DI vehicle that gets 35+ MPG [Re: spasm3]
badtlc Offline


Registered: 06/08/06
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Originally Posted By: spasm3
My son's 2017 hyundai elantra is a 2.0 non DI, non cvt. His gets better mpg than my 2013. He gets 36-40 hwy depending on traffic.


I really like those. I thought they had moved to the DI engine on the Elantra. I have never owned a Hyundai but they sure look nice.

Are they holding up well these days?
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#4756663 - 05/14/18 08:38 AM Re: Looking for a Non-DI vehicle that gets 35+ MPG [Re: badtlc]
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Registered: 06/13/16
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When you say "36+ MPG" are you saying EPA combined? EPA Highway only?
Fuelly.com value? Cruising at a steady 55 mph on flat ground? The answers are vastly different depending on what you mean.

My '15 C-Max gets 44 MPG average, about half city & hiway driving styles. (Fuelly.com reports 40 MPG fleet average.) Love that vehicle, based on the Ford Focus chassis, smooth everything, fast off the line with the electric motors kicking in quick. Gets 35 MPG with steady 75 mph cruising on flat ground, and 50 MPG in the ctiy.
The Ford Fusion Hybrid has the same powertain & weight, with slightly better aero and arguably cool styling. New & used ones available in spades.

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#4756670 - 05/14/18 08:48 AM Re: Looking for a Non-DI vehicle that gets 35+ MPG [Re: badtlc]
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A 3yr old Corolla? OFM, That is a great shot of the Fusion's nose. Too bad the rear is just ho hum. grin2
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#4756672 - 05/14/18 08:49 AM Re: Looking for a Non-DI vehicle that gets 35+ MPG [Re: badtlc]
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Registered: 12/14/02
Posts: 41654
Loc: New Jersey
Why fear the DI boogeyman?

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#4756674 - 05/14/18 08:51 AM Re: Looking for a Non-DI vehicle that gets 35+ MPG [Re: badtlc]
Rand Offline


Registered: 08/20/03
Posts: 12575
Loc: NE,Ohio
the non turbo elantra fits all that and about $13000


Originally Posted By: Olas
Anything smal and light will break 40.

My current daily driver is a B9 Audi A4 (turbo) averaging 44.1mpg


You are constantly posting nonsense. The OP is in north america. its not imperial gallons.

even the tinest cars here dont get over 40mpg
cue the chevy spark at 30/38, even the smart car wont average over 40mpg.

This is almost as silly as your post saying its easy to covert a new Camero to stickshift.

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#4756682 - 05/14/18 08:55 AM Re: Looking for a Non-DI vehicle that gets 35+ MPG [Re: badtlc]
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Registered: 05/17/09
Posts: 11899
Loc: N.H, U.S.A.
Wife's Crosstrek (applies to Subaru Impreza) get mid thirties in mixed driving and she's heavy on the gas.
Yes its a CVT but its a good one. No Converter slush and lots of grunt. At least on her 2017 model. This in not Di; I think the 2018's ARE DI

The Old Impreza is to small for me but if you are under 5-11 and med frame it should fit OK. GREAT build quality.
You can get a base 2018 impresa with stick for under 18K. That has room for 6 footers. IDK if the seats are too shallow and narrow as most semi- JDM tend to be. My Rogue has GREAT seats. Seats are Very Important for long term car satisfaction and we've been putting up with JUNK seats for way too long.

Just some advice DONT get a Nissan Versa Note.

Portsmouth Ford in NH. is selling NEW Focus Sedans for $12,900 and NO doc silly fees or upcharges.
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#4756683 - 05/14/18 08:56 AM Re: Looking for a Non-DI vehicle that gets 35+ MPG [Re: JHZR2]
badtlc Offline


Registered: 06/08/06
Posts: 5124
Loc: KC
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Why fear the DI boogeyman?



No fear. I had a mazda syactiv mazda3 previously. Just preference. The A:F ratios for the high compression DI motors is just too low for my liking. The Ford 2.0 DI in the focus would be the only one I would consider at this point. They did very well with that engine design and even were able to do it w/out fuel dilution. I know fuel dilution hasn't shown to cause many ancillary issues but it isn't ideal and I don't want to deal with it at this point.


Edited by badtlc (05/14/18 08:56 AM)
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#4756690 - 05/14/18 08:59 AM Re: Looking for a Non-DI vehicle that gets 35+ MPG [Re: badtlc]
OldSparks Offline


Registered: 07/08/07
Posts: 302
Loc: Ottawa, Upper Kanuckistan
I get around 36 mpg on the highway with my Civic 2.0 6 speed. I usually set it on cruise for 70mph.

Civic 2.0 at Fuelly

Elantra at Fuelly

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#4756693 - 05/14/18 09:03 AM Re: Looking for a Non-DI vehicle that gets 35+ MPG [Re: ARCOgraphite]
badtlc Offline


Registered: 06/08/06
Posts: 5124
Loc: KC
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Wife's Crosstrek (applies to Subaru Impreza) get mid thirties in mixed driving and she's heavy on the gas.
Yes its a CVT but its a good one. No Converter slush and lots of grunt. At least on her 2017 model. This in not Di; I think the 2018's ARE DI

The Old Impreza is to small for me but if you are under 5-11 and med frame it should fit OK. GREAT build quality.
You can get a base 2018 impresa with stick for under 18K. That has room for 6 footers. IDK if the seats are too shallow and narrow as most semi- JDM tend to be. My Rogue has GREAT seats. Seats are Very Important for long term car satisfaction and we've been putting up with JUNK seats for way too long.

Just some advice DONT get a Nissan Versa Note.

Portsmouth Ford in NH. is selling NEW Focus Sedans for $12,900 and NO doc silly fees or upcharges.


What about the forrester? It would be nice to haul 5 somewhat comfortably for when the van has to go to the shop for something.
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#4756694 - 05/14/18 09:05 AM Re: Looking for a Non-DI vehicle that gets 35+ MPG [Re: badtlc]
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Registered: 09/23/08
Posts: 9030
Loc: Ontario, Canada
If you can get over the CVT restriction, the Outback can return 30+mpg in country driving without DI. My wife is averaging 28mpg vs 22mpg in a 06 CRV in her driving, and I think I could get high 30's out of it just slowing down abit and not using the cruise. The CVT in the new ones has had a few fixes and refinements since its introduction, so I'm hoping they have it perfected now!
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#4756698 - 05/14/18 09:10 AM Re: Looking for a Non-DI vehicle that gets 35+ MPG [Re: badtlc]
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Loc: Michigan
Prius?
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#4756700 - 05/14/18 09:11 AM Re: Looking for a Non-DI vehicle that gets 35+ MPG [Re: IndyIan]
badtlc Offline


Registered: 06/08/06
Posts: 5124
Loc: KC
Originally Posted By: IndyIan
If you can get over the CVT restriction, the Outback can return 30+mpg in country driving without DI. My wife is averaging 28mpg vs 22mpg in a 06 CRV in her driving, and I think I could get high 30's out of it just slowing down abit and not using the cruise. The CVT in the new ones has had a few fixes and refinements since its introduction, so I'm hoping they have it perfected now!


Yeah, the CVT is everywhere these days. I'd take one over a torque converter auto but I like the higher efficiency of a DCT if I can find one.
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