Recent Topics
Smallest Personal Jet Air Plane
by Shannow
05/22/18 08:06 AM
Convair 990A - fastest airliner
by Shannow
05/22/18 08:05 AM
Update: 2013 MB ML350 with misfire
by DriveHard
05/22/18 07:52 AM
Stupid Kinking Twisted Knotted Power Washer Hose
by Gebo
05/22/18 07:49 AM
Please tell us your DA polisher tips
by ZZman
05/22/18 07:27 AM
Fear of a BITOG Nation
by LoneRanger
05/22/18 06:27 AM
Get ready for E15. The push is real...
by wemay
05/22/18 06:04 AM
PlayStation power inverter issues.
by Hemispheres
05/22/18 04:27 AM
Toyota OEM WS ATF
by toyota62
05/22/18 04:15 AM
Variable speed on MTD self-propel mowers
by DejaVue
05/22/18 01:55 AM
A rotary engine is a beautiful thing.
by OneEyeJack
05/22/18 01:32 AM
Some Basic Brake Fluid Questions...
by Onug
05/21/18 09:18 PM
Alternate 4Runner Oil
by 28gauge
05/21/18 08:54 PM
Any San Antonio Locals?
by JustinH
05/21/18 08:26 PM
the strangest sonata ping resolution.
by JustinH
05/21/18 08:20 PM
Castrol and Pennzoil 0w40 question
by Duntov283Cam
05/21/18 07:28 PM
new heater core while dash is out?
by motor_oil_madman
05/21/18 06:51 PM
Purolator One seal problem?
by RyanY
05/21/18 06:48 PM
Coyo oil filter failure
by WobblyElvis
05/21/18 06:10 PM
Honda OEM 12341-RTA-OOO Valve Cover gasket K24 CR-
by ammolab
05/21/18 05:44 PM
Newest Members
PGProduct, dg500, 28gauge, ka9mnx, Amenhotep
65054 Registered Users
Who's Online
86 registered (2004tdigls, andyd, Andya26, Andrei, 2009Edge, AandPDan, 6 invisible), 1435 Guests and 68 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
65054 Members
67 Forums
283992 Topics
4739702 Posts

Max Online: 3590 @ 01/24/17 08:07 PM
Donate to BITOG
Page 1 of 5 1 2 3 4 5 >
Topic Options
#4754080 - 05/11/18 10:43 AM Adding oil too soon
mjoekingz28 Offline


Registered: 11/21/07
Posts: 3899
Loc: United States of America
I think I've read in manuals to only add oil if it is at or below the add line. So I wondet is it good for the oil and/or engine to go through the full range of the crosshatch OR is addind a few ounces from time to time to keep the level at its upper limits prefetable?


Thanks Bob,
Joseph

Top
#4754086 - 05/11/18 10:49 AM Re: Adding oil too soon [Re: mjoekingz28]
PimTac Offline


Registered: 03/04/17
Posts: 3851
Loc: Soviet State of Washington
I like keeping the oil level at the full mark if possible. If itís just a hair or a quarter of a inch below it I will do nothing. If it was halfway between the full and add marks I would add.

Fortunately I havenít had a vehicle in the last 30 years that consumed oil.
_________________________
2017 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring

Valvoline Advanced Synthetic 0w20
Mobil 1 M108A EP filter


Top
#4754090 - 05/11/18 10:53 AM Re: Adding oil too soon [Re: mjoekingz28]
supton Online   content


Registered: 11/09/08
Posts: 11716
Loc: NH
All the manuals I've seen said to keep between the lines. We all know those lines aren't super precise, due to the vulgarities of the production line & tolerances due to making things cheap. So oil below the add line doesn't blow up engines, nor does oil over the line. How far outside the lines one can go is debatable. But between the lines is all one needs to be.
_________________________
2011 Toyota Camry, base, 2.5L/6MT, 159k, hers
2010 Toyota Tundra DC, 4.6L/6AT, 142k, ours
1999 Toyota Camry LE, 2.2L/4AT, 179k, his

Top
#4754092 - 05/11/18 10:55 AM Re: Adding oil too soon [Re: mjoekingz28]
Eddie Offline


Registered: 12/07/03
Posts: 9484
Loc: Florida, Cape Coral
The safe engine operating oil level is anywhere between the full & Min marks. The rational for waiting until the oil drops to the add mark is that you can pour in a full quart. My engines don't use anywhere the min mark so it is a no issue for me. I'd be happy running anywhere in the safe range. Ed
_________________________
CX5 Touring 2.5L :-)

Top
#4754094 - 05/11/18 10:56 AM Re: Adding oil too soon [Re: mjoekingz28]
JLTD Online   content


Registered: 12/15/17
Posts: 518
Loc: US
Engines were designed to operate with oil between the lines.... Nothing wrong with refilling any time and going to the top (or letting it get to the bottom ... but BITOG OCD makes that unlikely doesn't it?)
_________________________
2015 4Runner SR5 1GR-FE
Testing: Amsoil OE, 5w20 vs 5w30...then longer OCI on SS

Top
#4754098 - 05/11/18 11:02 AM Re: Adding oil too soon [Re: mjoekingz28]
JohnnyJohnson Offline


Registered: 10/22/09
Posts: 2595
Loc: Wet side WA
My Corolla never drops to the minimum in even a 6K OCI. But when the level on the dip stick drops a quarter of an inch or is below the max level and I'm going on a trip I top it off. Its never hurt the car.
_________________________
2004 Toyota Corolla 120668
Out: QSUD 5W-30 Purolator One 5030
In: Valvoline ML 5w-30 TG4967 117530 2-8-18
2006 Duramax 73822
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73752 4-22-18

Top
#4754101 - 05/11/18 11:05 AM Re: Adding oil too soon [Re: Eddie]
supton Online   content


Registered: 11/09/08
Posts: 11716
Loc: NH
Originally Posted By: Eddie
The safe engine operating oil level is anywhere between the full & Min marks. The rational for waiting until the oil drops to the add mark is that you can pour in a full quart. My engines don't use anywhere the min mark so it is a no issue for me. I'd be happy running anywhere in the safe range. Ed
My Camry is like 0.7qt between the marks. Now, I don't mind overfilling, but I'd read the manual before assuming Add means it'll take a quart.

Pretty sure my lawnmower has the same max/min marks yet total sump is like 0.5qt...
_________________________
2011 Toyota Camry, base, 2.5L/6MT, 159k, hers
2010 Toyota Tundra DC, 4.6L/6AT, 142k, ours
1999 Toyota Camry LE, 2.2L/4AT, 179k, his

Top
#4754141 - 05/11/18 11:46 AM Re: Adding oil too soon [Re: mjoekingz28]
raytseng Offline


Registered: 12/11/08
Posts: 2309
Loc: CA
you also have a fuel gauge. consider what you do with your fuel and do you do the same with your oil.

Top
#4754142 - 05/11/18 11:49 AM Re: Adding oil too soon [Re: JohnnyJohnson]
HondaBroMike Online   content


Registered: 11/02/17
Posts: 307
Loc: sev srv TX, 0w-20 convert!
Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
My Corolla never drops to the minimum in even a 6K OCI. But when the level on the dip stick drops a quarter of an inch or is below the max level and I'm going on a trip I top it off. Its never hurt the car.


JJ,

The oil never drops a smidge below the top hash mark, not even 1 degree of separation. This is on the new Civic, but on the Accord of yesteryear, it was add city as in add makeup ounces on the weekly. And this is a turbo application, mind you.
_________________________
Got Idemitsu lightweight low viscosity 0w-20 oil with density higher only by the mighty Redline 10w-40. It's hard to imagine a thin 0w20 oil being denser than even a heavy 10w40 but this is the case.

Top
#4754152 - 05/11/18 12:02 PM Re: Adding oil too soon [Re: HondaBroMike]
JohnnyJohnson Offline


Registered: 10/22/09
Posts: 2595
Loc: Wet side WA
If your old Honda was add weekly it was way past time to get rid of it. I've only had a couple of cars in my life that used much oil. They didn't hang around long!


Edited by JohnnyJohnson (05/11/18 12:03 PM)
_________________________
2004 Toyota Corolla 120668
Out: QSUD 5W-30 Purolator One 5030
In: Valvoline ML 5w-30 TG4967 117530 2-8-18
2006 Duramax 73822
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73752 4-22-18

Top
#4754169 - 05/11/18 12:16 PM Re: Adding oil too soon [Re: mjoekingz28]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 29567
Loc: NY
I look at it this way. If I popped the hood to check the oil, and it needed oil I'd add it. Even if was only a few ounces to top it up.
_________________________
God Bless Our Troops


Top
#4754174 - 05/11/18 12:23 PM Re: Adding oil too soon [Re: mjoekingz28]
PimTac Offline


Registered: 03/04/17
Posts: 3851
Loc: Soviet State of Washington
The decision to add may hinge on whether that person has oil on hand to do so. I suspect a large number of car owners do not keep a spare quart of oil handy. If the owner uses a quick lube or dealership for oil changes then having any spare oil on hand would be unlikely.
_________________________
2017 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring

Valvoline Advanced Synthetic 0w20
Mobil 1 M108A EP filter


Top
#4754186 - 05/11/18 12:41 PM Re: Adding oil too soon [Re: PimTac]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 29567
Loc: NY
Originally Posted By: PimTac
The decision to add may hinge on whether that person has oil on hand to do so. I suspect a large number of car owners do not keep a spare quart of oil handy. If the owner uses a quick lube or dealership for oil changes then having any spare oil on hand would be unlikely.


Good point. The last thing I would ever think of is paying for an oil change, as many other Bitoger's. We're the exception though.
_________________________
God Bless Our Troops


Top
#4754188 - 05/11/18 12:44 PM Re: Adding oil too soon [Re: demarpaint]
PimTac Offline


Registered: 03/04/17
Posts: 3851
Loc: Soviet State of Washington
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: PimTac
The decision to add may hinge on whether that person has oil on hand to do so. I suspect a large number of car owners do not keep a spare quart of oil handy. If the owner uses a quick lube or dealership for oil changes then having any spare oil on hand would be unlikely.


Good point. The last thing I would ever think of is paying for an oil change, as many other Bitoger's. We're the exception though.




I learned from my dad to always keep a quart handy in the trunk or somewhere. I found that quart cane in handy to help out others rather than having it for my uses which I never needed.
_________________________
2017 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring

Valvoline Advanced Synthetic 0w20
Mobil 1 M108A EP filter


Top
#4754210 - 05/11/18 01:12 PM Re: Adding oil too soon [Re: mjoekingz28]
hallstevenson Online   content


Registered: 04/25/17
Posts: 252
Loc: Ohio
Nissan and Infiniti has "H" and "L" markings on their dipsticks. A few folks at an Infiniti-focused forum insist that the proper level is at "H" and you must keep it there, all the time. If it goes below "H", you have to add oil. My belief is anywhere in between the two marks is perfectly acceptable.

What do "H" and "L" mean ? No one seems to know but logic says "high" and "low", right ? If so, I'd think right in the middle would be the ideal level. Filled to "H" could mean it's filled on the high side and filled to "L" means it's on the low side. Does that mean you have to drain some oil or add some oil if it's at either mark ? No idea.... The manual does say oil level should be "within the range" (meaning the two marks). If it's below, add oil, but it doesn't say to drain oil if it's over.

Top
Page 1 of 5 1 2 3 4 5 >