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HOA says no US flag #4753687
05/11/18 02:54 AM
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My HOA says that we can not mount a US flag to the front of our house. I'm not after anything extravagant, just a simple 6' aluminum pole with a 3' x 5' US flag mounted to the right side of our garage. Have any of you ever encountered this?! Of course I'm going to fight it, but was wondering if you guys had any advice. What in the &[email protected]! Has our society come to when a US citizen has to fight to display a flag on his house?


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Re: HOA says no US flag [Re: PW01] #4753688
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You live in a HOA. You pretty much signed away your rights living there. What does the contract you signed say about flags?


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Re: HOA says no US flag [Re: PW01] #4753689
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So fly it from the backyard then?

Re: HOA says no US flag [Re: PW01] #4753692
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If you Google Van Thomas Barfoot, a medal of honor winner, you can read his Wikipedia page and he had the same issue. Why is burning a flag protected under first amendment rights but flying one isn't?



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Re: HOA says no US flag [Re: PW01] #4753694
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HOA?

Re: HOA says no US flag [Re: FordBroncoVWJeta] #4753699
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Originally Posted By: FordBroncoVWJeta
You live in a HOA. You pretty much signed away your rights living there. What does the contract you signed say about flags?


It's pretty vague. It says that requests for flagpoles in front of the house will generally be denied. We wrongfully assumed that meant in ground flagpoles, they're saying that means flagpoles that are attached to the house


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Re: HOA says no US flag [Re: Reddy45] #4753700
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Originally Posted By: Reddy45
So fly it from the backyard then?


Seriously? You think someone should be able to tell a US citizen that they can't display their country's flag from the front of their house?!


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Re: HOA says no US flag [Re: Bjornviken] #4753701
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Originally Posted By: Bjornviken
HOA?


Home owners association


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Re: HOA says no US flag [Re: PW01] #4753702
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Call the HOA and get clarification on the bylaw language. If they mean a big flag pole in the ground I can see why they don't want everyone with one of those in their front yard.

Re: HOA says no US flag [Re: PW01] #4753703
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Re: HOA says no US flag [Re: ZeeOSix] #4753705
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Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Call the HOA and get clarification on the bylaw language. If they mean a big flag pole in the ground I can see why they don't want everyone with one of those in their front yard.


I was told that I could do that and that I would have to lower the flag at dusk each day. They don't allow the type you mount on your house. The in ground setup is a bit cost prohibitive.


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Re: HOA says no US flag [Re: PW01] #4753706
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This is what is printed in the exclusions -

"Generally, requests for flagpoles will be denied. Attachment of flagpoles to the rear of the residence shall be allowed.
Repair, maintenance and operation of any approved flagpole is the responsibility of the owner"


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Re: HOA says no US flag [Re: PW01] #4753707
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The rules are written in black and white.

Read them before you fight the HOA for a flag.

Re: HOA says no US flag [Re: PW01] #4753708
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I have to say that I'm quite surprised that no one seems upset that an HOA would try to tell homeowners that they can't fly an American flag


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Re: HOA says no US flag [Re: Mr Nice] #4753714
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Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
The rules are written in black and white.

Read them before you fight the HOA for a flag.


Unless I'm not reading this correctly, the state of Indiana says they can't stop me from displaying a flag -


http://iga.in.gov/static-documents/b/c/1/a/bc1a992f/SB0220.01.INTR.pdf


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