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Oil selection advice #4753613
05/10/18 09:54 PM
05/10/18 09:54 PM
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Taiwan, Taipei, ROC
aleneros Offline OP
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Hello BITOG Gentlemen~

I got a question regarding oil selection for my 2017 SKODA KODIAQ 2.0 TSI (EA888 GEN3B, 180HP/32.7kgm,132 kW TSI):

The specifications (VW standards) stated in the following can be indicated separately or together with other specifications on the bottle.

Vehicles with variable service intervals
Petrol engines Specification
2.0 ltr./132 kW TSI VW 508 00


Vehicles with fixed service intervals
Petrol engines Specification
2.0 ltr./132 kW TSI VW 502 00


I plan go with fixed OCI which is 1yr/15000 KM.

Since VW 502 00 is a FULL SAPS oil, and VVW 508 00 is a 0x-20 low viscosity oil.

That means, I can use AMSOIL 0W-20 SS oil (FULL SAPS, low viscosity) without any issues... is that correct?
Appreciate your comments!

Re: Oil selection advice [Re: aleneros] #4753624
05/10/18 10:18 PM
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Amsoil 0W-20 is NOT ok. What matters is the VW approval: the oil must be 502 or 508 certified (Amsoil is not). There are very few 508 oils available on the market, so I would choose a VW 502 approved oil. There are many to choose from. Iím not sure what you have in your market, but popular ones here are Castrol and Mobil 0W-40.


2007 X5 4.8i: M1 HM 10W-30
2016 Countryman S: EDGE 0W-30
Re: Oil selection advice [Re: aleneros] #4753625
05/10/18 10:19 PM
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Hey, don't forget Kira ... We're not all gentlemen laugh

Your logic is prolly OK, but why? I would not run a 20 in anything designed by VW... 0W-30 or 0W-40, yeah sure - I'd be OK with that.

Question is, is this a Direct Injection engine? If so, some other considerations may be more important ...

Last edited by BrocLuno; 05/10/18 10:19 PM.

Formerly in marine engineering. In an earlier life I owned my own petroleum tank truck, and hauled for the majors and independent's.
Re: Oil selection advice [Re: BrocLuno] #4753642
05/10/18 11:07 PM
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aleneros Offline OP
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Hello BrocLuno,
Yes, it's an improved version of VW EA888 GEN3 version (same as 2018 Tiguan, called EA888 GEN3b), electronically controlled combined (direct and port) injection smile

http://e-hike.net/content/behind-audis-new-rightsized-efficient-ea888-gen3b-family

BTW, what are some considerations about? crazy

Last edited by aleneros; 05/10/18 11:30 PM.
Re: Oil selection advice [Re: 1JZ_E46] #4753655
05/10/18 11:48 PM
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aleneros Offline OP
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I intend to use as low viscosity grade as possible, since vw 508 00 oil is also not easy to get here, I'd go for VW 504 00 (5W-30 /0W-30) instead of VW 502 00 (mostly xw-40?)
Is it safe to say?

Some 504 00 candidates here: (sort by price)
M1 ESP 5W-30
LIQUI MOLY TOP TEC 4200
RAVENOL 5W-30 VMP
AMSOIL 5W-30 TD

Re: Oil selection advice [Re: aleneros] #4753695
05/11/18 02:29 AM
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Slovenia EU
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Why do you want to push vw508 oil so bad? How good is your gasoline in Taiwan?


2008 Toyota Yaris 1ND-TV 1.4 D4-D Elf FullTech FE 5w30
1997 Toyota Landcruiser KZJ95 3.0 TD Shell Rimula R6M 10w40
Re: Oil selection advice [Re: aleneros] #4753713
05/11/18 03:10 AM
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502 over 508 any day of the week, oil is cheaper and lasts all year.


Cable ties should hold it
Re: Oil selection advice [Re: Kamele0N] #4753715
05/11/18 03:16 AM
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aleneros Offline OP
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The gas(ex:98 RON) here the sulphur content is < 10 ppmv.
Benzene content is < 1.0 vol%.

Re: Oil selection advice [Re: aleneros] #4753721
05/11/18 04:02 AM
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Don't use TOP TEC 4200. It sucks

Re: Oil selection advice [Re: aleneros] #4753746
05/11/18 04:31 AM
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Can someone please explain to me why the standard way of stating an oil wt. is not used here (ie; XWXX, XXWXX, etc.)? How do these oil numbers coincide with the way we here in the US say it? shrug

Re: Oil selection advice [Re: CleverUserName] #4753861
05/11/18 07:01 AM
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aleneros Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: CleverUserName
Don't use TOP TEC 4200. It sucks


It must be not a good use experience, I wonder how bad is it? shocked

Re: Oil selection advice [Re: aleneros] #4753899
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Originally Posted By: aleneros
I intend to use as low viscosity grade as possible, since vw 508 00 oil is also not easy to get here, I'd go for VW 504 00 (5W-30 /0W-30) instead of VW 502 00 (mostly xw-40?)
Is it safe to say?

Some 504 00 candidates here: (sort by price)
M1 ESP 5W-30
LIQUI MOLY TOP TEC 4200
RAVENOL 5W-30 VMP
AMSOIL 5W-30 TD


504 and 502 are going to be essentially the same viscosity. Both are required to be >3.5 HTHS. The SAE grade (for example, 5W-30) doesnít really say much with European spec oils. I would use what is stated in the OM, a 502 oil. You can find it in 5W-30 as well.


2007 X5 4.8i: M1 HM 10W-30
2016 Countryman S: EDGE 0W-30
Re: Oil selection advice [Re: CleverUserName] #4753900
05/11/18 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted By: CleverUserName
Don't use TOP TEC 4200. It sucks


Curious, why? It has a lot of top-tier OEM approvals.


2007 X5 4.8i: M1 HM 10W-30
2016 Countryman S: EDGE 0W-30
Re: Oil selection advice [Re: aleneros] #4753942
05/11/18 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted By: aleneros
I intend to use as low viscosity grade as possible, since vw 508 00 oil is also not easy to get here, I'd go for VW 504 00 (5W-30 /0W-30) instead of VW 502 00 (mostly xw-40?)
Is it safe to say?

Some 504 00 candidates here: (sort by price)
M1 ESP 5W-30
LIQUI MOLY TOP TEC 4200
RAVENOL 5W-30 VMP
AMSOIL 5W-30 TD
Why would you want to use the thinnest grade possible?


2015 Ford F150 2.7
2018 Ford F350 6.2
Re: Oil selection advice [Re: BlueOvalFitter] #4754598
05/11/18 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted By: BlueOvalFitter
Can someone please explain to me why the standard way of stating an oil wt. is not used here (ie; XWXX, XXWXX, etc.)? How do these oil numbers coincide with the way we here in the US say it? shrug

They're talking about numbers on an OEM approval sheet, rather than SAE J300 viscosities on their own.


Plain, simple Garak.

2008 Infiniti G37 - Shell ROTELLA T6 Multi-Vehicle 5w-30, NAPA Gold 7356
1984 F-150 4.9L - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515
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