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#4753613 - 05/10/18 10:54 PM Oil selection advice
aleneros Offline


Registered: 03/30/18
Posts: 19
Loc: Taiwan, Taipei, ROC
Hello BITOG Gentlemen~

I got a question regarding oil selection for my 2017 SKODA KODIAQ 2.0 TSI (EA888 GEN3B, 180HP/32.7kgm,132 kW TSI):

The specifications (VW standards) stated in the following can be indicated separately or together with other specifications on the bottle.

Vehicles with variable service intervals
Petrol engines Specification
2.0 ltr./132 kW TSI VW 508 00


Vehicles with fixed service intervals
Petrol engines Specification
2.0 ltr./132 kW TSI VW 502 00


I plan go with fixed OCI which is 1yr/15000 KM.

Since VW 502 00 is a FULL SAPS oil, and VVW 508 00 is a 0x-20 low viscosity oil.

That means, I can use AMSOIL 0W-20 SS oil (FULL SAPS, low viscosity) without any issues... is that correct?
Appreciate your comments!

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#4753624 - 05/10/18 11:18 PM Re: Oil selection advice [Re: aleneros]
1JZ_E46 Offline


Registered: 04/04/16
Posts: 1239
Loc: Oregon
Amsoil 0W-20 is NOT ok. What matters is the VW approval: the oil must be 502 or 508 certified (Amsoil is not). There are very few 508 oils available on the market, so I would choose a VW 502 approved oil. There are many to choose from. Iím not sure what you have in your market, but popular ones here are Castrol and Mobil 0W-40.
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#4753625 - 05/10/18 11:19 PM Re: Oil selection advice [Re: aleneros]
BrocLuno Offline


Registered: 09/06/15
Posts: 5612
Loc: Kalifornia Kollective
Hey, don't forget Kira ... We're not all gentlemen laugh

Your logic is prolly OK, but why? I would not run a 20 in anything designed by VW... 0W-30 or 0W-40, yeah sure - I'd be OK with that.

Question is, is this a Direct Injection engine? If so, some other considerations may be more important ...


Edited by BrocLuno (05/10/18 11:19 PM)
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#4753642 - 05/11/18 12:07 AM Re: Oil selection advice [Re: BrocLuno]
aleneros Offline


Registered: 03/30/18
Posts: 19
Loc: Taiwan, Taipei, ROC
Hello BrocLuno,
Yes, it's an improved version of VW EA888 GEN3 version (same as 2018 Tiguan, called EA888 GEN3b), electronically controlled combined (direct and port) injection smile

http://e-hike.net/content/behind-audis-new-rightsized-efficient-ea888-gen3b-family

BTW, what are some considerations about? crazy


Edited by aleneros (05/11/18 12:30 AM)

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#4753655 - 05/11/18 12:48 AM Re: Oil selection advice [Re: 1JZ_E46]
aleneros Offline


Registered: 03/30/18
Posts: 19
Loc: Taiwan, Taipei, ROC
I intend to use as low viscosity grade as possible, since vw 508 00 oil is also not easy to get here, I'd go for VW 504 00 (5W-30 /0W-30) instead of VW 502 00 (mostly xw-40?)
Is it safe to say?

Some 504 00 candidates here: (sort by price)
M1 ESP 5W-30
LIQUI MOLY TOP TEC 4200
RAVENOL 5W-30 VMP
AMSOIL 5W-30 TD

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#4753695 - 05/11/18 03:29 AM Re: Oil selection advice [Re: aleneros]
Kamele0N Offline


Registered: 02/09/15
Posts: 2084
Loc: Slovenia EU
Why do you want to push vw508 oil so bad? How good is your gasoline in Taiwan?
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#4753713 - 05/11/18 04:10 AM Re: Oil selection advice [Re: aleneros]
Olas Offline


Registered: 12/11/13
Posts: 3933
Loc: Manchester, England
502 over 508 any day of the week, oil is cheaper and lasts all year.
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#4753715 - 05/11/18 04:16 AM Re: Oil selection advice [Re: Kamele0N]
aleneros Offline


Registered: 03/30/18
Posts: 19
Loc: Taiwan, Taipei, ROC
The gas(ex:98 RON) here the sulphur content is < 10 ppmv.
Benzene content is < 1.0 vol%.

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#4753721 - 05/11/18 05:02 AM Re: Oil selection advice [Re: aleneros]
CleverUserName Offline


Registered: 11/08/17
Posts: 193
Loc: California
Don't use TOP TEC 4200. It sucks

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#4753746 - 05/11/18 05:31 AM Re: Oil selection advice [Re: aleneros]
BlueOvalFitter Offline


Registered: 02/28/03
Posts: 6003
Loc: Cajun Country, La.
Can someone please explain to me why the standard way of stating an oil wt. is not used here (ie; XWXX, XXWXX, etc.)? How do these oil numbers coincide with the way we here in the US say it? shrug

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#4753861 - 05/11/18 08:01 AM Re: Oil selection advice [Re: CleverUserName]
aleneros Offline


Registered: 03/30/18
Posts: 19
Loc: Taiwan, Taipei, ROC
Originally Posted By: CleverUserName
Don't use TOP TEC 4200. It sucks


It must be not a good use experience, I wonder how bad is it? shocked

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#4753899 - 05/11/18 08:31 AM Re: Oil selection advice [Re: aleneros]
1JZ_E46 Offline


Registered: 04/04/16
Posts: 1239
Loc: Oregon
Originally Posted By: aleneros
I intend to use as low viscosity grade as possible, since vw 508 00 oil is also not easy to get here, I'd go for VW 504 00 (5W-30 /0W-30) instead of VW 502 00 (mostly xw-40?)
Is it safe to say?

Some 504 00 candidates here: (sort by price)
M1 ESP 5W-30
LIQUI MOLY TOP TEC 4200
RAVENOL 5W-30 VMP
AMSOIL 5W-30 TD


504 and 502 are going to be essentially the same viscosity. Both are required to be >3.5 HTHS. The SAE grade (for example, 5W-30) doesnít really say much with European spec oils. I would use what is stated in the OM, a 502 oil. You can find it in 5W-30 as well.
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#4753900 - 05/11/18 08:32 AM Re: Oil selection advice [Re: CleverUserName]
1JZ_E46 Offline


Registered: 04/04/16
Posts: 1239
Loc: Oregon
Originally Posted By: CleverUserName
Don't use TOP TEC 4200. It sucks


Curious, why? It has a lot of top-tier OEM approvals.
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#4753942 - 05/11/18 09:03 AM Re: Oil selection advice [Re: aleneros]
CT8 Offline


Registered: 10/09/14
Posts: 11210
Loc: Idaho
Originally Posted By: aleneros
I intend to use as low viscosity grade as possible, since vw 508 00 oil is also not easy to get here, I'd go for VW 504 00 (5W-30 /0W-30) instead of VW 502 00 (mostly xw-40?)
Is it safe to say?

Some 504 00 candidates here: (sort by price)
M1 ESP 5W-30
LIQUI MOLY TOP TEC 4200
RAVENOL 5W-30 VMP
AMSOIL 5W-30 TD
Why would you want to use the thinnest grade possible?
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#4754598 - 05/11/18 09:43 PM Re: Oil selection advice [Re: BlueOvalFitter]
Garak Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
Posts: 24701
Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Originally Posted By: BlueOvalFitter
Can someone please explain to me why the standard way of stating an oil wt. is not used here (ie; XWXX, XXWXX, etc.)? How do these oil numbers coincide with the way we here in the US say it? shrug

They're talking about numbers on an OEM approval sheet, rather than SAE J300 viscosities on their own.
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2008 Infiniti G37 - Shell ROTELLA T6 Multi-Vehicle 5w-30, NAPA Gold 7356
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