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#4753471 - 05/10/18 08:40 PM Determining Severe Oil Service
CincyFritz Offline


Registered: 07/01/08
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Loc: Ohio
Have a Subaru Legacy 2.5l and have 1500 miles on it in 3 months. Would you change oil per the Severe service due to low mileage/short trip schedule? It is driven 8 miles to work weekly (Mo-Fr)one way, some interstate and mostly side streets. The dealer says just do 6months/6000miles (WECF). What do YOU think? Thanks for your comments in advance. I want to use QSUD 0W-20 especially since the base oil is GTL like Pennzoil Pure Plua. Any comments welcome.

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#4753483 - 05/10/18 08:48 PM Re: Determining Severe Oil Service [Re: CincyFritz]
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Registered: 10/22/09
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Its still under warranty you stick with the warranty requirements.
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#4753489 - 05/10/18 08:51 PM Re: Determining Severe Oil Service [Re: CincyFritz]
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Registered: 09/06/15
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Maybe I'd consider it severe in the cold weather ... But it's warming up nicely and that engine has port injection if older model, so it runs relatively cleanly. Yeah, I know Subies are known to fuel the oil some, but not unless your pushing a lot of turbo boost and beating on it, or it's a Direct Injection engine ...

QSUD will go the distance. I'd just do every 6 months.

You could pull a sample and send it in at shorter time to double check. Then you'd know for sure smile


Edited by BrocLuno (05/10/18 08:53 PM)
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#4753496 - 05/10/18 08:58 PM Re: Determining Severe Oil Service [Re: CincyFritz]
4WD Offline


Registered: 09/21/10
Posts: 6137
Loc: Texas
Dealer is OK several brands have good base oil in that grade

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#4753497 - 05/10/18 08:58 PM Re: Determining Severe Oil Service [Re: CincyFritz]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
Posts: 5954
Loc: Waco, TX
Originally Posted By: BrocLuno

QSUD will go the distance. I'd just do every 6 months.

You could pull a sample and send it in at shorter time to double check. Then you'd know for sure smile


I agree with this.

Or just run 5W-40 Shell Rotella T in everything.
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#4753535 - 05/10/18 09:33 PM Re: Determining Severe Oil Service [Re: CincyFritz]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 29569
Loc: NY
That type of driving constitutes severe service driving. I'd follow the owners manual for severe service maintenance.
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#4753561 - 05/10/18 09:57 PM Re: Determining Severe Oil Service [Re: CincyFritz]
Rolla07 Offline


Registered: 11/05/11
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6 months would be 3000 miles so id go with every 6 months.
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#4753565 - 05/10/18 10:00 PM Re: Determining Severe Oil Service [Re: Linctex]
Snagglefoot Offline


Registered: 12/31/17
Posts: 1543
Loc: Alberta
Originally Posted By: Linctex
Originally Posted By: BrocLuno

QSUD will go the distance. I'd just do every 6 months.

You could pull a sample and send it in at shorter time to double check. Then you'd know for sure smile


I agree with this.

Or just run 5W-40 Shell Rotella T in everything.



Do you mean Rotella T3, or some other Rotella product. I think Rotella T is phased out.

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#4753626 - 05/10/18 11:21 PM Re: Determining Severe Oil Service [Re: CincyFritz]
BrocLuno Offline


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Loc: Kalifornia Kollective
Prolly meaning T6 ... But may not really be appropriate for this engine depending on which exact model it is ...
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#4753646 - 05/11/18 12:16 AM Re: Determining Severe Oil Service [Re: CincyFritz]
JLTD Offline


Registered: 12/15/17
Posts: 525
Loc: US
UOA! UOA! UOA!

It's the only way to be certain.
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#4753754 - 05/11/18 05:52 AM Re: Determining Severe Oil Service [Re: CincyFritz]
Johnny2Bad Offline


Registered: 05/20/13
Posts: 1734
Loc: Saskatchewan, Canada
8 miles daily on pavement with some high speed sections is not severe service; it's near ideal, actually.

"Severe Service" is towing, travel on dusty roads with opposing traffic (that's where you eat the dust), and numerous trips where the coolant and lubricants do not meet operating temperatures. You have none of those conditions.
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#4753766 - 05/11/18 06:11 AM Re: Determining Severe Oil Service [Re: Johnny2Bad]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 29569
Loc: NY
Originally Posted By: Johnny2Bad
8 miles daily on pavement with some high speed sections is not severe service; it's near ideal, actually.

"Severe Service" is towing, travel on dusty roads with opposing traffic (that's where you eat the dust), and numerous trips where the coolant and lubricants do not meet operating temperatures. You have none of those conditions.

Severe service is also short hopping where the oil isn't getting to operating temps long enough to burn off excess fuel and moisture. I doubt the oil is getting hot enough long enough to burn off condensation, especially during the winter months. I'd follow severe service or at least pony up for a UOA to eliminate some of the guess work.
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#4753791 - 05/11/18 06:41 AM Re: Determining Severe Oil Service [Re: demarpaint]
doyall Offline


Registered: 06/26/03
Posts: 482
Loc: LA (Lower Alabama)
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Severe service is also short hopping where the oil isn't getting to operating temps long enough to burn off excess fuel and moisture. I doubt the oil is getting hot enough long enough to burn off condensation, especially during the winter months. I'd follow severe service or at least pony up for a UOA to eliminate some of the guess work.


This. And if you do a UOA, get it somewhere that does gas chromatography fuel dilution testing.

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#4753896 - 05/11/18 08:28 AM Re: Determining Severe Oil Service [Re: CincyFritz]
Brigadier Offline


Registered: 03/11/12
Posts: 399
Loc: WA
A mechanic at the shop I take my cars too said that 'Western Washington is severe service'. So driving over here is sever service....

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#4753917 - 05/11/18 08:47 AM Re: Determining Severe Oil Service [Re: CincyFritz]
CT8 Offline


Registered: 10/09/14
Posts: 10732
Loc: Idaho
Oil is oil. Look at the ratings and when in doubt change it out. Follow the owners manual there is no voodoo needed.
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