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#4753246 - 05/10/18 05:33 PM Mobil 1 AP and EP nearly the same price?
Rand Offline


Registered: 08/20/03
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Loc: NE,Ohio
I was at the local wally world picking up some clearance...

Happened to notice M1 AP is now cheaper than Castrol gold bottle and only 1 dollar more then M1 EP.

Would you now buy M1 AP?


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#4753256 - 05/10/18 05:39 PM Re: Mobil 1 AP and EP nearly the same price? [Re: Rand]
oil_film_movies Offline


Registered: 06/13/16
Posts: 2432
Loc: MN
Yes, AP is supposed to use better, newer, anti-oxidants than any previous formula. Yes use AP.

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#4753258 - 05/10/18 05:42 PM Re: Mobil 1 AP and EP nearly the same price? [Re: oil_film_movies]
Rand Offline


Registered: 08/20/03
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Loc: NE,Ohio
Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
Yes, AP is supposed to use better, newer, anti-oxidants than any previous formula. Yes use AP.


But 0w20 EP supposedly has a good % of PAO...

I cant find anything about AP..

Honestly I change the oil every 6months or upto 10000miles for warranty anyway.

so if you arent going to run it 15000 or more miles is it still better?
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#4753263 - 05/10/18 05:46 PM Re: Mobil 1 AP and EP nearly the same price? [Re: Rand]
jj51702 Offline


Registered: 10/07/16
Posts: 232
Loc: California
Oh Mobil...how much money have u lost with this AP oil?

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#4753274 - 05/10/18 06:00 PM Re: Mobil 1 AP and EP nearly the same price? [Re: Rand]
car51 Offline


Registered: 03/12/15
Posts: 10070
Loc: Southwest PA
Originally Posted By: Rand
Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
Yes, AP is supposed to use better, newer, anti-oxidants than any previous formula. Yes use AP.


But 0w20 EP supposedly has a good % of PAO...

I cant find anything about AP..

Honestly I change the oil every 6months or upto 10000miles for warranty anyway.

so if you arent going to run it 15000 or more miles is it still better?


I'll use EP thanks

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#4753290 - 05/10/18 06:15 PM Re: Mobil 1 AP and EP nearly the same price? [Re: Rand]
ammolab Offline


Registered: 01/16/06
Posts: 984
Loc: Ruidoso, NM USA
Look at the "price per unit" in red...no where near similar for EP and AP.

Wonder what the AP really rings up?
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#4753291 - 05/10/18 06:16 PM Re: Mobil 1 AP and EP nearly the same price? [Re: Rand]
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Registered: 06/13/16
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Loc: MN
Originally Posted By: Rand
Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
Yes, AP is supposed to use better, newer, anti-oxidants than any previous formula. Yes use AP.
But 0w20 EP supposedly has a good % of PAO...I cant find anything about AP.. Honestly I change the oil every 6months or upto 10000miles for warranty anyway.so if you arent going to run it 15000 or more miles is it still better?

Use the best oil you can afford. Whatever your oil change interval (OCI), the better oil will leave cleaner pistons at the end of any length OCI, although its true to some extent there may not be much difference if you dump the oil before it begins to oxidize heavily. Some diff, maybe not much, for shorter OCI's. ....
M1 EP & AP 0w20 have the same ~65% PAO, but the products are distinguished by other ingredients, so the better one is AP, according to Exxon-Mobil.
https://www.exxonmobil.com/sds is where they all are. (1-DECENE, HOMOPOLYMER HYDROGENATED is PAO, by the way.)

One other clue M1 AP could be a better formula than EP is that PQIA found the 5w30 flavor of AP had a very low 8.5% NOACK, beat only by the PAO/ester expensive Ravenol DXG 5w30 dexos1 Gen2 stuff at 6%.

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#4753293 - 05/10/18 06:20 PM Re: Mobil 1 AP and EP nearly the same price? [Re: Rand]
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Registered: 10/22/09
Posts: 2606
Loc: Wet side WA
Looks like that AP is just $7 away from a sale!
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#4753295 - 05/10/18 06:23 PM Re: Mobil 1 AP and EP nearly the same price? [Re: ammolab]
RD_3 Offline


Registered: 04/01/08
Posts: 239
Loc: MN
Originally Posted By: ammolab
Look at the "price per unit" in red...no where near similar for EP and AP.

Wonder what the AP really rings up?


This. Did you check the actual price tag to see if the SKU matched...?
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#4753331 - 05/10/18 06:50 PM Re: Mobil 1 AP and EP nearly the same price? [Re: RD_3]
Dallas69 Offline


Registered: 02/11/14
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Loc: Texas
I have a feeling it was put in the wrong place.
Scan for price and see.
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#4753366 - 05/10/18 07:24 PM Re: Mobil 1 AP and EP nearly the same price? [Re: Rand]
SubieRubyRoo Offline


Registered: 05/14/12
Posts: 1017
Loc: Winchester, Indiana
Price per unit isn't correct- 5 qts x 32 oz per qt x $0.933 per oz= $149.28, so something's obviously off, even for AP LOL

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#4753383 - 05/10/18 07:38 PM Re: Mobil 1 AP and EP nearly the same price? [Re: Rand]
Mainia Offline


Registered: 04/06/15
Posts: 187
Loc: Upper midwest
If it is posted at a price, don't they have to sell it to you for that price?

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#4753386 - 05/10/18 07:39 PM Re: Mobil 1 AP and EP nearly the same price? [Re: Rand]
SubieRubyRoo Offline


Registered: 05/14/12
Posts: 1017
Loc: Winchester, Indiana
If the tag actually says AP... but they will pull the tag and usually only sell you one item at the incorrect price.

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#4753402 - 05/10/18 07:53 PM Re: Mobil 1 AP and EP nearly the same price? [Re: Rand]
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Registered: 02/25/14
Posts: 2085
Loc: Deplorable in Kansas, HK fan b...
Read and check specs. Whichever performs better in your application. M1 still good pcmo oil.
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#4753493 - 05/10/18 08:55 PM Re: Mobil 1 AP and EP nearly the same price? [Re: Rand]
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Registered: 06/16/05
Posts: 509
Loc: Danville, Indiana
I'd run the AP. In 0w20, it looks like it has a lower pour point and higher flash point than 0w20EP, although they are close. I also wonder what the NOACK is for each of them?
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