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Hyundai 3.3L GDI, solid tappets, oil? #4752953
05/10/18 11:03 AM
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In my 2017 Santa Fe with the Lambda 3.3L, I was planning on running PP or PUP 5W-30 as it meets all the mfr specs. But then I was reading the owner's manual and at 60k miles it says to listen to the valves and adjust the tappet clearances if necessary. I have 28k on mine.

So I found a video on YouTube on the engine and sure enough, flat tappets.

Would the PUP or PP be enough if they are SN rated? Should I use an additive with moly? BTW, the tappets are DLC coated.


2017 Hyundai Santa Fe SE, 3.3L, AWD, QSUD 5w30, OEM filter, Hy-per Lube ZRA

https://www.pure-gas.org/ << Wake up your engine!!

Where the stars and stripes and the eagle fly
Re: Hyundai 3.3L GDI, solid tappets, oil? [Re: Brigadier] #4752954
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Flat tappets in a 2017? What?


2010 Ford Escape 2.5 ~92K Miles: RP 5W-30, AMSOIL SS FE ATF.
1995 Chevy Silverado 5.7 ~277K Miles: Delo 10W-30, AMSOIL OE MV ATF.
AMSOIL in EVERYTHING!
Re: Hyundai 3.3L GDI, solid tappets, oil? [Re: dogememe] #4752976
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Originally Posted By: dogememe
Flat tappets in a 2017? What?


I know. I was surprised as well.....


2017 Hyundai Santa Fe SE, 3.3L, AWD, QSUD 5w30, OEM filter, Hy-per Lube ZRA

https://www.pure-gas.org/ << Wake up your engine!!

Where the stars and stripes and the eagle fly
Re: Hyundai 3.3L GDI, solid tappets, oil? [Re: Brigadier] #4752977
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Do you happen to have a link to the YouTube video you watched?

Re: Hyundai 3.3L GDI, solid tappets, oil? [Re: Brigadier] #4752984
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2017 Hyundai Santa Fe SE, 3.3L, AWD, QSUD 5w30, OEM filter, Hy-per Lube ZRA

https://www.pure-gas.org/ << Wake up your engine!!

Where the stars and stripes and the eagle fly
Re: Hyundai 3.3L GDI, solid tappets, oil? [Re: Brigadier] #4753005
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And 3 timing chains .... nice design smile

Re: Hyundai 3.3L GDI, solid tappets, oil? [Re: nap] #4753014
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Originally Posted By: nap
And 3 timing chains .... nice design smile


Yes, I will be doing all maintenance according to severe service schedules.


2017 Hyundai Santa Fe SE, 3.3L, AWD, QSUD 5w30, OEM filter, Hy-per Lube ZRA

https://www.pure-gas.org/ << Wake up your engine!!

Where the stars and stripes and the eagle fly
Re: Hyundai 3.3L GDI, solid tappets, oil? [Re: Brigadier] #4753049
05/10/18 12:33 PM
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Deplorable in apple valley, ca
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Usually the valves recess into the heads and take up clearance, no noise.


02 Wrangler carlube 5w30
87 F250 traveler 15w40
07 fjcruiser Chevron 10w30
Z400 castrol T 10w40
Can am maveric edge 5w40
57 case tractor 15w40
Re: Hyundai 3.3L GDI, solid tappets, oil? [Re: Brigadier] #4753053
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From Shell:


Alternative recommendations: Pennzoil Platinum Euro SAE 5W-40 / Rotella T6 5W-40; >0F, FormulaShell Synthetic SAE 10W-30 Motor Oil / FormulaShell SAE 10W-30 Motor Oil / Pennzoil Platinum High Mileage 10W-30

Rotella yay!

Re: Hyundai 3.3L GDI, solid tappets, oil? [Re: nap] #4753061
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Originally Posted By: nap
From Shell:


Alternative recommendations: Pennzoil Platinum Euro SAE 5W-40 / Rotella T6 5W-40; >0F, FormulaShell Synthetic SAE 10W-30 Motor Oil / FormulaShell SAE 10W-30 Motor Oil / Pennzoil Platinum High Mileage 10W-30

Rotella yay!


Honest question: How can they recommend T6 5w40 when they no longer dual certify it and it doesn't meet any of my car's required specs?


2017 Hyundai Santa Fe SE, 3.3L, AWD, QSUD 5w30, OEM filter, Hy-per Lube ZRA

https://www.pure-gas.org/ << Wake up your engine!!

Where the stars and stripes and the eagle fly
Re: Hyundai 3.3L GDI, solid tappets, oil? [Re: Brigadier] #4753088
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I have no idea, maybe I selected the wrong car / engine combo, you can try yourself here:

https://lubematch.shell.com/

Re: Hyundai 3.3L GDI, solid tappets, oil? [Re: Brigadier] #4753093
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P.S. Mystery solved. If you use the Shell oil selector, it will list "global brand" oil and the recommendations will ignore EPA and CAFE stuff. If you use the Pennzoil oil selector, it will assume you are driving it in the US (and not somewhere else) and indicate just what your US manual says.

Re: Hyundai 3.3L GDI, solid tappets, oil? [Re: Brigadier] #4753178
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What does the owners manual recommend?


2015 Ford F150 2.7
2018 Ford F350 6.2
Re: Hyundai 3.3L GDI, solid tappets, oil? [Re: CT8] #4753216
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Originally Posted By: CT8
What does the owners manual recommend?


Manual recommendations include:

API Service SM or later
ILSAC GF-4 (or above),
ACEA A5 (or above), A3/B3 allowed

5w30 is recommended for CAFE, but 5W40 and 10W30 are allowed.


2017 Hyundai Santa Fe SE, 3.3L, AWD, QSUD 5w30, OEM filter, Hy-per Lube ZRA

https://www.pure-gas.org/ << Wake up your engine!!

Where the stars and stripes and the eagle fly
Re: Hyundai 3.3L GDI, solid tappets, oil? [Re: Brigadier] #4753254
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Originally Posted By: Brigadier
Originally Posted By: CT8
What does the owners manual recommend?


Manual recommendations include:

API Service SM or later
ILSAC GF-4 (or above),
ACEA A5 (or above), A3/B3 allowed

5w30 is recommended for CAFE, but 5W40 and 10W30 are allowed.


Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5W40 meets except the Ilsac energy conserving thing. By the way you started the thread, I assume that your main concern is the tappets not the trees. The 40 grades have less restrictions on EP additives. You may want to check Pennzoil vs Mobil vs Castrol specsheets and UOA here to see which has nice ZDDP and possibly moly.

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