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HONDA push mower #4752780
05/10/18 09:36 AM
05/10/18 09:36 AM
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Texas
RN89 Offline OP
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Texas
After researching quite a bit I've narrowed my options for push mowers to 2 choices: the Honda HRR216PKA or the HRR216VKA. They both come equipped with the 160cc Honda motor with the self-choke and fuel cut off switch; 2 features that I like. I have a couple of questions and need recommendations.

From what I can tell, the only difference in the models is one is self-propelled and the other isn't. My yard is a flat medium-sized suburban lot with mostly Bermuda grass that is healthy and thick. My current mower is not self-propelled and works just fine* as I am a young athletic guy. My concern with buying self-propelled is I understand they are more prone to breaking - more parts higher chance for something to break? But then I think of the ease with which the mower will glide. The price difference is negligible and I am willing to invest in something that will give me good service for years to come. Which one would you buy?

Lastly, what is the difference with buying a Honda mower at a dealer versus at a store like Home Depot? I have both within miles of my house and need recommendations on where to buy. Thanks in advance!

*I'm getting a new mower because my parents just bought a vacation home with a smaller yard and I am giving them my current 5 year old Craftsman 140cc mower to keep there.


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Re: HONDA push mower [Re: RN89] #4752784
05/10/18 09:40 AM
05/10/18 09:40 AM
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Where the wind comes sweepin'
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Where the wind comes sweepin'
Do Honda mowers still use hydraulic transmissions? If so, that is a concern.

But if they use a simple belt driven transmission like Toro Recyclers then definitely get propelled.

The 160cc engine is as good as it can get, assuming you don't need pro level features. In fact I think it's the engine that Harbor Freight made a clone of and sells under their Predator line.

Re: HONDA push mower [Re: RN89] #4752790
05/10/18 09:43 AM
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I have a TroyBilt with a Honda Engine from Lowes.. bought it with a coupon from the USPS moving packet about 10 yrs ago.

Not sure how much better the Honda chassis would have been over the TroyBilt..

Re: HONDA push mower [Re: Reddy45] #4752791
05/10/18 09:44 AM
05/10/18 09:44 AM
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Florida
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Florida
Originally Posted By: Reddy45
Do Honda mowers still use hydraulic transmissions? If so, that is a concern.

But if they use a simple belt driven transmission like Toro Recyclers then definitely get propelled.

The 160cc engine is as good as it can get, assuming you don't need pro level features. In fact I think it's the engine that Harbor Freight made a clone of and sells under their Predator line.

GC Honda engines are not the master race GX Hondas. They're probably fine for little yards. Most mowers with Honda are going to be GC.


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Re: HONDA push mower [Re: RN89] #4752813
05/10/18 10:02 AM
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Midwest, Illinois
beanoil Online content
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Propelled.
Hard to kill a Honda in a small yard, even the entry level Home Depot models.
I recently abused mine, forgetting to winterize, it sat for 2 years with the fuel valve open, and no stabilizer in the tank.
A shot of starting fluid, a quart of SEF, and by the end of the yard it was back to it's old self.
Straight 30 weight, currently Mobil 1630 in it.


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Re: HONDA push mower [Re: RN89] #4752886
05/10/18 10:54 AM
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Chicago, IL
I'd get the self propelled as well. Worst case, if the transmission goes, you can probably pull some parts and downgrade it back to a push only. The self propelled feature might be nice if you ever need your wife/kids/elderly/neighbors cut your grass for you.

Re: HONDA push mower [Re: RN89] #4752890
05/10/18 10:58 AM
05/10/18 10:58 AM
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Oklahoma
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Oklahoma
Been posting in the consumer electronics forum about electric mowers. Like you, I can get some really thick Bermuda here in Oklahoma when the conditions are right and wondered if an electric cordless would handle it. All the reviews showed non-Bermuda grass on youtube. Didn't make me feel good about it. So, I've been looking at, and going to go ahead and take the plunge and get the HRX217VKA for 599 at home depot. This one is self propelled with the 190 engine. I can still push a mower, but, why not??? If you mulch, supposedly this thing is the mack daddy of the mulchers with its twin blade system. One thing I've learned researching Honda's, this particular mower is what the call the entry level. The real only difference between this one and the higher priced ones are electric start, blade cut off while engine running and an actual throttle control and the self propelled system is a little different, but the engine is the same.


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Re: HONDA push mower [Re: RN89] #4752915
05/10/18 11:24 AM
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Alberta
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Alberta
I have the self propelled one, starting third season with it. I like it, works well.


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Re: HONDA push mower [Re: RN89] #4752920
05/10/18 11:26 AM
05/10/18 11:26 AM
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Hudson, NH
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Hudson, NH
I have a Honda started second pull after sitting for 10 years, then getting crushed when a tree hit the shed..


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Re: HONDA push mower [Re: RN89] #4752925
05/10/18 11:33 AM
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Washington for now
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go self propelled. i have used both . a older super recycler and a honda 216. both have proven engines. one thing i do not like about the honda is its rpm in use. mulchers need a lot of rpm to work well. the honda twin blade cut the grass to smaller pieces though. feed them clean oil and gas and clean the under deck and both will last a long time.

Re: HONDA push mower [Re: RN89] #4752967
05/10/18 12:20 PM
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i love my hydrostatic drive Honda bagger for many years, their other self propelled bagger with the "flippers" is also great as i got one for my aunt. the dual blades cut + bag well even when wet + the rear opening door to the bag never clogs like chutes, close it to mulch!! it don't get any better IMO, got hers from HD + mail ordered mine from Wise Sales because HD did not carry that one. Stealers always cost more!!!

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Re: HONDA push mower [Re: RN89] #4752995
05/10/18 12:50 PM
05/10/18 12:50 PM
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The Midwest
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Get the push model. I think Honda uses ball bearing rear wheels that make it easier to push than your run of the mill mower. Self propelled mowers limit your finesse.


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Re: HONDA push mower [Re: krismoriah72] #4753034
05/10/18 01:24 PM
05/10/18 01:24 PM
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California
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California
Originally Posted By: krismoriah72
I have a TroyBilt with a Honda Engine from Lowes.. bought it with a coupon from the USPS moving packet about 10 yrs ago.

Not sure how much better the Honda chassis would have been over the TroyBilt


I have one of those from Lowes. Good engine except the choke mechanism could be better. As for the chassis, the wheels and hardware are decent. Now here's why I hate this mower. The deck design is totally screwed. The thing has absolutely no suction for picking up grass clippings and leaves. Instead it blows them out front.

Re: HONDA push mower [Re: krismoriah72] #4753067
05/10/18 01:44 PM
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Posts: 5,251
North Texas
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North Texas
Originally Posted By: krismoriah72
I have a TroyBilt with a Honda Engine from Lowes.. bought it with a coupon from the USPS moving packet about 10 yrs ago.

Not sure how much better the Honda chassis would have been over the TroyBilt..


Same exact mower and 10 years like you. 93 octane and loads of fuel additives.
This what my 160 looks like. I did use Amsoil power foam in the combustion chamber let it soak over night. Iíll take a picture at the end of this season to compare. Runs better now. Didnít have issues before but seemed to help it. Sorry getting a little off topic.

Last edited by ARB1977; 05/10/18 01:47 PM.

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Re: HONDA push mower [Re: RN89] #4753129
05/10/18 02:56 PM
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Long Island,nassau county NY
nickaluch Offline
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Long Island,nassau county NY
Self propelled way to go


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