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#4752461 - 05/09/18 10:18 PM Thin 5w30
Zee09 Offline


Registered: 05/05/18
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What is one of the thinner 5w30 weight oils out there?
Thinking of moving up from a 5w20
Thanks
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#4752466 - 05/09/18 10:20 PM Re: Thin 5w30 [Re: Zee09]
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Any ilsac 5w30
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#4752483 - 05/09/18 10:37 PM Re: Thin 5w30 [Re: Zee09]
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Amsoil SS, just look up operating temp visc, every oil worth buying has one.

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#4752493 - 05/09/18 10:51 PM Re: Thin 5w30 [Re: Bryanccfshr]
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Apparently it doesnt matter
Take it easy


Edited by Insertcoolname (05/09/18 11:00 PM)
Edit Reason: Nobody cares anyway
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#4752494 - 05/09/18 10:53 PM Re: Thin 5w30 [Re: Insertcoolname]
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Thank you Sir!
Gives me a good starting place.
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#4752499 - 05/09/18 10:55 PM Re: Thin 5w30 [Re: Zee09]
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Go find my thread comparing some 5W-30. It should be on page 2 or 3 of this forum.

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#4752501 - 05/09/18 10:56 PM Re: Thin 5w30 [Re: Zee09]
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The new Pennzoil Platinum Dexos1 Gen2 5W-30 is probably the thinnest 5W-30 I’ve seen. KV100 in the 9s I believe.

Edit: both PP d1g2 and Valvoline “Modern Engine” are 9.8.


Edited by 1JZ_E46 (05/09/18 11:01 PM)
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#4752504 - 05/09/18 10:58 PM Re: Thin 5w30 [Re: Insertcoolname]
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Originally Posted By: Insertcoolname
Not useful at all

No, he gave the absolutely perfect, concise answer to the question. KV isn't terrible useful, and all the ILSAC 5w-30 options will have an HTHS of around 3.0, plus or minus 0.1.
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#4752509 - 05/09/18 11:03 PM Re: Thin 5w30 [Re: Garak]
1JZ_E46 Offline


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Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: Insertcoolname
Not useful at all

No, he gave the absolutely perfect, concise answer to the question. KV isn't terrible useful, and all the ILSAC 5w-30 options will have an HTHS of around 3.0, plus or minus 0.1.


Yep. HTHS is what matters. I’d venture that PP d1g2 and VME are at the low-end of 3.0 +-1


Edited by 1JZ_E46 (05/09/18 11:04 PM)
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#4752531 - 05/09/18 11:42 PM Re: Thin 5w30 [Re: Zee09]
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M1 AFE 0w30

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#4752564 - 05/10/18 03:07 AM Re: Thin 5w30 [Re: 1JZ_E46]
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I agree. PP or Valvoline Modern Engine 5w30 could liked be the lowest HTHS oils.

I think Valvoline Advanced full synthetic 5w30 has a HTHS of 3.2 and a KV of 11.4+. Mobil Super Synthetic 5w30 has a HTHS of 3.3 with a KV of 11.7. Those two are higher ones for sure with a higher KV that does correlate with a bit of higher HTHS.
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#4752575 - 05/10/18 03:42 AM Re: Thin 5w30 [Re: Zee09]
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When the viscosity vs temperature is graphed for a couple of 5W20 and 5W30 oils, it shows that once the oil gets to about 55~60 C (130~140 F) that the viscosity difference isn't much between 5W20 and 5W30. 5W30 at 60C is about the same viscosity as 5W20 at 55C. And by the time the oil hits 100 C (212 F) the difference is even less. If the viscosity tracks within 5 C on upper end, the engine isn't going to know any difference. If you had a very efficient oil cooler that kept 5W20 at 95 C it would be like running 5W30 at 100 C in terms of operating viscosity.

So trying to home in on a "thin 5W30" is a waste of time IMO ... just run any 5W30 if that's what you want.


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#4752582 - 05/10/18 04:53 AM Re: Thin 5w30 [Re: Zee09]
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I always thought that Havoline 5W20 & 5W30 oils ran a bit thinner than many of their competitors.
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#4752598 - 05/10/18 05:56 AM Re: Thin 5w30 [Re: Zee09]
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Thank you all for the information!
Very helpful
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#4752599 - 05/10/18 05:57 AM Re: Thin 5w30 [Re: Char Baby]
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Originally Posted By: Char Baby
I always thought that Havoline 5W20 & 5W30 oils ran a bit thinner than many of their competitors.


I do have a bunch of Havoline in that grade. Thanks!
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