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2018 Honda Pilot #4751834
05/09/18 08:56 AM
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Does anyone know if the new 3.5L engine has a timing belt or chain? We maybe looking into one but for maintenance purposes Id like to stick to a chain, lol.


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Re: 2018 Honda Pilot [Re: ARB1977] #4751846
05/09/18 09:12 AM
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Timing belt according to this source which shows the Pilot up until the 2017 model. The 2018 has the same engine

http://tbk-garage.timingbeltkit.com/honda-timing-belttiming-chain-complete-list/

Here's a good Pilot forum if you haven't seen it yet. covers the redesigned Pilot which came out as a 2016 model

http://www.piloteers.org/forums/114-2016-third-generation-pilot/

Re: 2018 Honda Pilot [Re: ARB1977] #4751848
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Belt. That's how they have that silky smooth power and quicker acceleration. All my V6's had belts. You can get that work done cheaper outside of a dealer. But, 105K trouble free miles and all you got to do is change out the belts, spark plugs and AT fluid isn't so bad.


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Re: 2018 Honda Pilot [Re: ARB1977] #4751858
05/09/18 09:23 AM
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Belt. You may also see it like this: At 100k miles (and possibly 200k too), would you like to have a brand new belt (and tensioners and water pump to go with it if needed), or a timing chain in unknown status? laugh

Re: 2018 Honda Pilot [Re: ARB1977] #4751879
05/09/18 09:59 AM
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Canuck living in California
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Forget the belt, it's the least of your worries. Disable that dreaded VCM and save yourself engine and engine mount trouble. The engine mounts on the VCM equipped engines are stupidly expensive.

Last edited by KrisZ; 05/09/18 10:00 AM.

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Re: 2018 Honda Pilot [Re: KrisZ] #4751934
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Originally Posted By: KrisZ
Forget the belt, it's the least of your worries. Disable that dreaded VCM and save yourself engine and engine mount trouble. The engine mounts on the VCM equipped engines are stupidly expensive.

How do you disable VCM?


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Re: 2018 Honda Pilot [Re: ARB1977] #4751943
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One of the products is called VCM Muzzler that some members here use successfully. But I think other companies make a similar device as well.

Muzzler discussion


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Re: 2018 Honda Pilot [Re: KrisZ] #4751949
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Originally Posted By: KrisZ
One of the products is called VCM Muzzler that some members here use successfully. But I think other companies make a similar device as well.

Muzzler discussion

Thanks!


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Re: 2018 Honda Pilot [Re: Schmoe] #4751985
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Originally Posted By: Schmoe
Belt. That's how they have that silky smooth power and quicker acceleration. All my V6's had belts. You can get that work done cheaper outside of a dealer. But, 105K trouble free miles and all you got to do is change out the belts, spark plugs and AT fluid isn't so bad.


Chains "stretch" (wear), and can use replacement for optimal operation in long-lived vehicles.

Refreshing a few things at 100k is a given for any vehicle. The belt replacement is not that expensive. I just don't get why it's a boogeyman.

Re: 2018 Honda Pilot [Re: KrisZ] #4751991
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Originally Posted By: KrisZ
One of the products is called VCM Muzzler that some members here use successfully. But I think other companies make a similar device as well.

Muzzler discussion


We have the VCMuzzler. I use it when we're driving the van longer highway distances (generally summertime and road trips) VCM does help a lot around town. I think it's prudent to run the system to some extent.

Re: 2018 Honda Pilot [Re: ARB1977] #4751993
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Every mechanic I know prefers belts.
I do as well.
And no they are not at the stealerships as they say here


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Re: 2018 Honda Pilot [Re: ARB1977] #4752007
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Never had a timing chain issue with any of my vehicles. I'm not a huge fan of belts which is why none of the vehicles I've ever owned had a belt. Timing belt job for mom's 95 Accord was over $900! Yeah, the water pump is changed then too but then again changing a water pump in a typical vehicle with a timing chain is usually easy, and with proper maintenance the timing chain will last forever, and never require replacement.

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Re: 2018 Honda Pilot [Re: Zee09] #4752018
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Originally Posted By: Zee09
Every mechanic I know prefers belts.
I do as well.
And no they are not at the stealerships as they say here


Yes because they get to replace them and make money as regular maintenance.

I'm not opposed to timing belts, they have their advantages and disadvantages just like any engineering solution, but I'm not going to blindly praise it either.


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Re: 2018 Honda Pilot [Re: dogememe] #4752050
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Originally Posted By: dogememe
Never had a timing chain issue with any of my vehicles. I'm not a huge fan of belts which is why none of the vehicles I've ever owned had a belt. Timing belt job for mom's 95 Accord was over $900! Yeah, the water pump is changed then too but then again changing a water pump in a typical vehicle with a timing chain is usually easy, and with proper maintenance the timing chain will last forever, and never require replacement.


I propose the following experiment:

google search for

timing chain recall

then for

timing belt recall

(P.S. the Juke has a timing chain however it will show in the second search as some journalists used the wrong term).

Re: 2018 Honda Pilot [Re: KrisZ] #4752257
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Originally Posted By: KrisZ
Originally Posted By: Zee09
Every mechanic I know prefers belts.
I do as well.
And no they are not at the stealerships as they say here


Yes because they get to replace them and make money as regular maintenance.

I'm not opposed to timing belts, they have their advantages and disadvantages just like any engineering solution, but I'm not going to blindly praise it either.


Chains seem to be quite problematic these days. T-Belts are predictable and are less expensive to replace than chains.


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