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Moving back to recommended oil #4751673
05/08/18 11:50 PM
05/08/18 11:50 PM
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Gauteng, South Africa
NAPSTER Offline OP
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Gauteng, South Africa
Hi All.

I am in a unique position here.

My GF drives a 2004 Hyundai Getz 1.6. The oil that the OEM recommends to use is 10w40. She has, however, been driving the car with 20w50 for 1-2years now.

My Question is, should I go back to the recommended oil or should I keep using 20w50 now? I am just concerned that using 20w50 for such a long time may have changed the tollerances in the engine and if I now go back to 10w40 it will cause problems......?

Any help please as I am looking to do an oil service this weekend.

Kind regards,

Re: Moving back to recommended oil [Re: NAPSTER] #4751679
05/08/18 11:56 PM
05/08/18 11:56 PM
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In your climate, you can run either of them with no problems.
If you do go back to 10w40, you might notice an increase in fuel economy


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Re: Moving back to recommended oil [Re: NAPSTER] #4751684
05/09/18 12:31 AM
05/09/18 12:31 AM
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Where the wind comes sweepin'
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How many kms were on the car when your girlfriend started using 20w50? I would imagine that a 14 year old car would have enough wear that changing oil weights would not be a concern.

Re: Moving back to recommended oil [Re: Lolvoguy] #4751685
05/09/18 12:36 AM
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Gauteng, South Africa
NAPSTER Offline OP
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Thank you

Re: Moving back to recommended oil [Re: Reddy45] #4751686
05/09/18 12:37 AM
05/09/18 12:37 AM
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Gauteng, South Africa
NAPSTER Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Reddy45
How many kms were on the car when your girlfriend started using 20w50? I would imagine that a 14 year old car would have enough wear that changing oil weights would not be a concern.


200 000km to 240 000km.

My concern is not having moved to the "heavier" oil, I am wondering if it would be ok to go back to the lighter oil.....?

Re: Moving back to recommended oil [Re: NAPSTER] #4751687
05/09/18 01:00 AM
05/09/18 01:00 AM
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Taiwan
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Originally Posted By: NAPSTER


I am in a unique position here.



I am in a unique position here, too.

In fact everyone is in a unique position, wherever they are.

But changing from thickish to slightly thinner oil doesn't seem likely to be unique.

Worrying about it enough to post a question on an obsessives self-help group forum is probably clinically, er, unusual, though.

Dr Ducked's opinion: Continue with the existing treatment until there are contraindications. Or not. It doesn't matter.

However, if you change and "notice" an improvement in fuel economy, keep it to yourself unless you've done a double-blind randomised trial.

Otherwise those placebo effects will embarrass you every time.

Last edited by Ducked; 05/09/18 01:02 AM.
Re: Moving back to recommended oil [Re: Ducked] #4751712
05/09/18 03:21 AM
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You sound uniquely unqualified. lol


"If I walked on water, they'd say I couldn't swim."
Re: Moving back to recommended oil [Re: Zee09] #4751715
05/09/18 04:04 AM
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Taiwan
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Originally Posted By: Zee09
You sound uniquely unqualified. lol


Everyone is uniquely unqualified for something. That's what makes us special.

Re: Moving back to recommended oil [Re: NAPSTER] #4751750
05/09/18 05:23 AM
05/09/18 05:23 AM
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New England
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Originally Posted By: NAPSTER
Hi All.

I am in a unique position here.

My GF drives a 2004 Hyundai Getz 1.6. The oil that the OEM recommends to use is 10w40. She has, however, been driving the car with 20w50 for 1-2years now.

My Question is, should I go back to the recommended oil or should I keep using 20w50 now? I am just concerned that using 20w50 for such a long time may have changed the tollerances in the engine and if I now go back to 10w40 it will cause problems......?

Any help please as I am looking to do an oil service this weekend.

Kind regards,


Hi Napster, I am no engine expert but can't see that the 20W50 would have changed the engine at all.
You should be absolutely fine with using 10W40...however, if you tell our GF about the change, she will probably swear that the car feels worse and that it is all your fault. I know that's what my wife would do!
;^)


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Re: Moving back to recommended oil [Re: NAPSTER] #4751761
05/09/18 05:47 AM
05/09/18 05:47 AM
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Dallas,Tx USA
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No worries,you'll be good Cheers2

Go back to 10W40 and you'll probably feel the car "wake up" and be a lot more responsive.


1996 Nissan 300ZX 5-speed,Arctic Pearl(#175 of 300)
Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30
2012 Honda Accord Coupe EX-L 2.4,auto,San Marino Red
Pennzoil Platinum 5W20

Re: Moving back to recommended oil [Re: Virtus_Probi] #4751763
05/09/18 05:53 AM
05/09/18 05:53 AM
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Champlain/Hudson Valley
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Here's a "funny anecdote" to confuse things a bit.

Friend's 1985 Subaru GL (1700 cc engine) called for 20W-50.
My 1976 Chevrolet Nova (250 CID I6) used 10W-30.

I tried the 20W-50 in the Chevy and the engine clicked and clicked upon start-up and never quieted down.

I after draining the 20W-50 I stayed with 10W-30 and never though of it again.

Re: Moving back to recommended oil [Re: NAPSTER] #4751768
05/09/18 06:06 AM
05/09/18 06:06 AM
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IF I am understanding you, you want to go back to the 10w-40. I would go back to the 10w-40. Then see how it goes. Napster, you know you wanna try it. grin

Last edited by Gebo; 05/09/18 06:06 AM.

'98 LEX LS400 280K
'02 4Runner 225K
'05 Lex LS430 85K
'06 Toyota Highlander 145K
'09 Lex IS350 85K
'07 Lex GX470 60K
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Re: Moving back to recommended oil [Re: NAPSTER] #4751864
05/09/18 08:36 AM
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Kalifornia Kollective
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Does it use oil now (consume) between oil changes? Leaks, drips, weaps?

Does it run funny or make any noise on start-up? Any smoke at start-up?


Formerly in marine engineering. In an earlier life I owned my own petroleum tank truck, and hauled for the majors and independent's.
Re: Moving back to recommended oil [Re: NAPSTER] #4751890
05/09/18 09:09 AM
05/09/18 09:09 AM
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Indiana
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No issues whatsoever. Try it, you may like it.

Listen to some Die Antwoord while you service it too. laugh


03 Jeep WJ 4.0 202k Edge 10w40 HM Fram XG16
02 Volvo S60 2.4T 186k M1 0w40 Mahle OX149D
97 Chevy Blazer 4.3 153k Synpower 5w30 Supertech ST3980 (Ecore)

Re: Moving back to recommended oil [Re: NAPSTER] #4752516
05/09/18 10:17 PM
05/09/18 10:17 PM
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Down Under
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Both 10W40 and 20W50 should work fine.

I would go a 15W40, maybe a mixed fleet HDEO (suitable for petrol and diesel). This should be thicker than most 10W40's but also offer more TBN (oil life) than most 20W50's.

The 20W50's near me are mostly old school SG stuff with a weak add pack.


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