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Guy gets fired for bad breath Facebook post #4750856
05/08/18 06:58 AM
05/08/18 06:58 AM
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Orlando, FL
Mr Nice Offline OP
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We’ve all been in this type of situation when a coworker has bad breath and they insist on talking with you. puke
You don’t want to be rude and try to avoid this particular person cause they have horse breath. This guy posts about it on Facebook and then gets fired.


https://wsvn.com/news/help-me-howard/fired-for-facebook-post/



Re: Guy gets fired for bad breath Facebook post [Re: Mr Nice] #4750861
05/08/18 07:06 AM
05/08/18 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
We’ve all been in this type of situation when a coworker has bad breath and they insist on talking with you. puke
You don’t want to be rude and try to avoid this particular person cause they have horse breath. This guy posts about it on Facebook and then gets fired.


https://wsvn.com/news/help-me-howard/fired-for-facebook-post/




Sheer guess more then the bad mouthing caused his firing. Just a last straw on a likely problem. Electricians are not easy to hire or falling out of trees.

Re: Guy gets fired for bad breath Facebook post [Re: Mr Nice] #4750864
05/08/18 07:13 AM
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What does the constitution have to say about freedom of speech?.

What kind of Big Brother world has it become when we have to watch everything we say anywhere, anytime, for fear of the consequences?. The Western World fought a short and very bloody hot war, and a long and expensive cold war to end tyrannies where this was the case.

Claud.

Re: Guy gets fired for bad breath Facebook post [Re: Mr Nice] #4750867
05/08/18 07:18 AM
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Freedom of speech doesn't mean you can be an [censored] with no consequences.

As far as I'm concerned, if horse breath saw the guys post, it'd be the same as him being called horse breath in person - which could be a fireable offense.


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Re: Guy gets fired for bad breath Facebook post [Re: Claud] #4750868
05/08/18 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted By: Claud
What does the constitution have to say about freedom of speech?.

What kind of Big Brother world has it become when we have to watch everything we say anywhere, anytime, for fear of the consequences?. The Western World fought a short and very bloody hot war, and a long and expensive cold war to end tyrannies where this was the case.

Claud.


He absolutely has the right to freedom of speech.

What you're protected against in that right is repercussions from the government.

Your employer has rights, too, including the right to terminate you if said speech is defamatory, or harassing, to other employees.

Funny how folks think that a right frees them from any responsibility for their actions...

The framers were looking to protect political speech and the expression of political opinion. Not one of them was looking to protect a person's right to be a jerk to other people, or to avoid the consequences of saying rude and insulting things about other individuals.

I see that RooflessVW was typing at the same time, and makes the same point.

Last edited by Astro14; 05/08/18 07:23 AM.

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Re: Guy gets fired for bad breath Facebook post [Re: Mr Nice] #4750873
05/08/18 07:26 AM
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Mr Nice Offline OP
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Make sure you watch the video and see what Howard (lawyer) has to say about it.

Re: Guy gets fired for bad breath Facebook post [Re: Mr Nice] #4750902
05/08/18 08:28 AM
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Well when you've been itching to fire someone wait a few minutes they'll give you a popular PC reason!


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Re: Guy gets fired for bad breath Facebook post [Re: Mr Nice] #4750911
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That's what you get for using Face****


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Re: Guy gets fired for bad breath Facebook post [Re: Mr Nice] #4750913
05/08/18 08:37 AM
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Had this problem years ago at work. Everyone in the office knew the co-worker had bad breath and we all commented on it outside of that person's earshot. But no social media back then so no one got fired. Eventually she got her teeth fixed and the bad breath went away. As far as I know, no one ever said anything about it to her either.

Re: Guy gets fired for bad breath Facebook post [Re: Mr Nice] #4750933
05/08/18 08:53 AM
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I tell those whose armpits or breath stink.......... nicely and not within ears of anyone else.


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Re: Guy gets fired for bad breath Facebook post [Re: Mr Nice] #4750945
05/08/18 09:03 AM
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The government can not arrest someone making that kind of a post.

But your employer in many states can. I can guarantee you I would be fired if I posted something like that about one of my co-workers.

Re: Guy gets fired for bad breath Facebook post [Re: Mr Nice] #4750947
05/08/18 09:06 AM
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Would he had kept his job had he given him a small bottle of SCOPE?

Last edited by JHZR2; 05/08/18 07:42 PM. Reason: advocating harm
Re: Guy gets fired for bad breath Facebook post [Re: Mr Nice] #4750969
05/08/18 09:22 AM
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I'm thinking this guy has a case against the employer because of this: “They handed me the employment handbook, which highlighted that evidently commenting on someone’s bad breath constitutes physical violence". There is no way commenting on facebook is "physical violence". Especially since the guy did not even name the horse breath guy.

I'm thinking the boss was looking for a excuse to fire this guy. That's also why he was searching this guy's facebook.

Last edited by Dave1027; 05/08/18 09:24 AM.
Re: Guy gets fired for bad breath Facebook post [Re: Dave1027] #4750972
05/08/18 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted By: Dave1027
I'm thinking this guy has a case against the employer because of this: “They handed me the employment handbook, which highlighted that evidently commenting on someone’s bad breath constitutes physical violence". There is no way commenting on facebook is "physical violence". Especially since the guy did not even name the horse breath guy.

I'm thinking the boss was looking for a reason to fire this guy. That's also why he was searching this guy's facebook.


That's why when firing people, it's best not to give any reason at all, the standard, "We've decided to go in a different direction." says everything without saying anything.

Re: Guy gets fired for bad breath Facebook post [Re: rooflessVW] #4751005
05/08/18 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Freedom of speech doesn't mean you can be an [censored] with no consequences.

As far as I'm concerned, if horse breath saw the guys post, it'd be the same as him being called horse breath in person - which could be a fireable offense.


Exactly. We had an issue in the last company I worked at where someone posted about a coworker in a negative way on Facebook. It got around the office, and that person was fired by the company.

While something may be free for you to say in the eyes of the government, it might be against the rules of your employer.


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