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#4750856 - 05/08/18 07:58 AM Guy gets fired for bad breath Facebook post
Mr Nice Offline


Registered: 09/12/04
Posts: 21084
Loc: Orlando, FL
We’ve all been in this type of situation when a coworker has bad breath and they insist on talking with you. puke
You don’t want to be rude and try to avoid this particular person cause they have horse breath. This guy posts about it on Facebook and then gets fired.


https://wsvn.com/news/help-me-howard/fired-for-facebook-post/



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#4750861 - 05/08/18 08:06 AM Re: Guy gets fired for bad breath Facebook post [Re: Mr Nice]
madRiver Offline


Registered: 07/11/15
Posts: 3448
Loc: New England
Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
We’ve all been in this type of situation when a coworker has bad breath and they insist on talking with you. puke
You don’t want to be rude and try to avoid this particular person cause they have horse breath. This guy posts about it on Facebook and then gets fired.


https://wsvn.com/news/help-me-howard/fired-for-facebook-post/




Sheer guess more then the bad mouthing caused his firing. Just a last straw on a likely problem. Electricians are not easy to hire or falling out of trees.

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#4750864 - 05/08/18 08:13 AM Re: Guy gets fired for bad breath Facebook post [Re: Mr Nice]
Claud Offline


Registered: 02/11/14
Posts: 591
Loc: Margate England
What does the constitution have to say about freedom of speech?.

What kind of Big Brother world has it become when we have to watch everything we say anywhere, anytime, for fear of the consequences?. The Western World fought a short and very bloody hot war, and a long and expensive cold war to end tyrannies where this was the case.

Claud.

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#4750867 - 05/08/18 08:18 AM Re: Guy gets fired for bad breath Facebook post [Re: Mr Nice]
rooflessVW Offline


Registered: 12/24/11
Posts: 3825
Loc: North Carolina
Freedom of speech doesn't mean you can be an [censored] with no consequences.

As far as I'm concerned, if horse breath saw the guys post, it'd be the same as him being called horse breath in person - which could be a fireable offense.
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#4750868 - 05/08/18 08:19 AM Re: Guy gets fired for bad breath Facebook post [Re: Claud]
Astro14 Offline


Registered: 10/10/10
Posts: 8429
Loc: Virginia Beach
Originally Posted By: Claud
What does the constitution have to say about freedom of speech?.

What kind of Big Brother world has it become when we have to watch everything we say anywhere, anytime, for fear of the consequences?. The Western World fought a short and very bloody hot war, and a long and expensive cold war to end tyrannies where this was the case.

Claud.


He absolutely has the right to freedom of speech.

What you're protected against in that right is repercussions from the government.

Your employer has rights, too, including the right to terminate you if said speech is defamatory, or harassing, to other employees.

Funny how folks think that a right frees them from any responsibility for their actions...

The framers were looking to protect political speech and the expression of political opinion. Not one of them was looking to protect a person's right to be a jerk to other people, or to avoid the consequences of saying rude and insulting things about other individuals.

I see that RooflessVW was typing at the same time, and makes the same point.


Edited by Astro14 (05/08/18 08:23 AM)
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#4750873 - 05/08/18 08:26 AM Re: Guy gets fired for bad breath Facebook post [Re: Mr Nice]
Mr Nice Offline


Registered: 09/12/04
Posts: 21084
Loc: Orlando, FL
Make sure you watch the video and see what Howard (lawyer) has to say about it.

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#4750902 - 05/08/18 09:28 AM Re: Guy gets fired for bad breath Facebook post [Re: Mr Nice]
JohnnyJohnson Offline


Registered: 10/22/09
Posts: 2595
Loc: Wet side WA
Well when you've been itching to fire someone wait a few minutes they'll give you a popular PC reason!
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#4750911 - 05/08/18 09:36 AM Re: Guy gets fired for bad breath Facebook post [Re: Mr Nice]
zorobabel Offline


Registered: 01/27/11
Posts: 467
Loc: Anaheim, CA
That's what you get for using Face****
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#4750913 - 05/08/18 09:37 AM Re: Guy gets fired for bad breath Facebook post [Re: Mr Nice]
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Registered: 04/27/12
Posts: 4637
Loc: MA
Had this problem years ago at work. Everyone in the office knew the co-worker had bad breath and we all commented on it outside of that person's earshot. But no social media back then so no one got fired. Eventually she got her teeth fixed and the bad breath went away. As far as I know, no one ever said anything about it to her either.

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#4750933 - 05/08/18 09:53 AM Re: Guy gets fired for bad breath Facebook post [Re: Mr Nice]
Triple_Se7en Offline


Registered: 12/04/04
Posts: 8648
Loc: 1/2 hr. north of Detroit
I tell those whose armpits or breath stink.......... nicely and not within ears of anyone else.

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#4750945 - 05/08/18 10:03 AM Re: Guy gets fired for bad breath Facebook post [Re: Mr Nice]
SeaJay Offline


Registered: 03/05/15
Posts: 1030
Loc: New York City
The government can not arrest someone making that kind of a post.

But your employer in many states can. I can guarantee you I would be fired if I posted something like that about one of my co-workers.

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#4750947 - 05/08/18 10:06 AM Re: Guy gets fired for bad breath Facebook post [Re: Mr Nice]
BlueOvalFitter Offline


Registered: 02/28/03
Posts: 6001
Loc: Cajun Country, La.
Would he had kept his job had he given him a small bottle of SCOPE?


Edited by JHZR2 (05/08/18 08:42 PM)
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#4750969 - 05/08/18 10:22 AM Re: Guy gets fired for bad breath Facebook post [Re: Mr Nice]
Dave1027 Offline


Registered: 05/02/18
Posts: 20
Loc: California
I'm thinking this guy has a case against the employer because of this: “They handed me the employment handbook, which highlighted that evidently commenting on someone’s bad breath constitutes physical violence". There is no way commenting on facebook is "physical violence". Especially since the guy did not even name the horse breath guy.

I'm thinking the boss was looking for a excuse to fire this guy. That's also why he was searching this guy's facebook.


Edited by Dave1027 (05/08/18 10:24 AM)

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#4750972 - 05/08/18 10:25 AM Re: Guy gets fired for bad breath Facebook post [Re: Dave1027]
Wolf359 Online   content


Registered: 04/27/12
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Loc: MA
Originally Posted By: Dave1027
I'm thinking this guy has a case against the employer because of this: “They handed me the employment handbook, which highlighted that evidently commenting on someone’s bad breath constitutes physical violence". There is no way commenting on facebook is "physical violence". Especially since the guy did not even name the horse breath guy.

I'm thinking the boss was looking for a reason to fire this guy. That's also why he was searching this guy's facebook.


That's why when firing people, it's best not to give any reason at all, the standard, "We've decided to go in a different direction." says everything without saying anything.

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#4751005 - 05/08/18 11:02 AM Re: Guy gets fired for bad breath Facebook post [Re: rooflessVW]
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Registered: 04/15/10
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Loc: Storrs, Connecticut
Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Freedom of speech doesn't mean you can be an [censored] with no consequences.

As far as I'm concerned, if horse breath saw the guys post, it'd be the same as him being called horse breath in person - which could be a fireable offense.


Exactly. We had an issue in the last company I worked at where someone posted about a coworker in a negative way on Facebook. It got around the office, and that person was fired by the company.

While something may be free for you to say in the eyes of the government, it might be against the rules of your employer.
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