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#4750492 - 05/07/18 07:38 PM Tire shine type products... Bad for tires?
Skeet6 Offline


Registered: 12/24/13
Posts: 32
Loc: Pike County, PA
Wondering if the tire shine/cleaner/gloss type products are harmful to the rubber in time. Just curious on thoughts?
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#4750496 - 05/07/18 07:41 PM Re: Tire shine type products... Bad for tires? [Re: Skeet6]
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Registered: 03/02/13
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Loc: The Midwest
I think any statements saying they are bad are hearsay.
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#4750507 - 05/07/18 07:46 PM Re: Tire shine type products... Bad for tires? [Re: Skeet6]
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Registered: 09/24/13
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Loc: Connecticut
If anything I would think some would protect the rubber from UV and possible slow down dry rotting of the sidewalls. I don’t know which ones off the shelf that would be, but I believe some of them are silicone based and others are water based, similar to interior vinyl cleaners. Either way I wouldn’t worry about it personally.
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#4750515 - 05/07/18 07:57 PM Re: Tire shine type products... Bad for tires? [Re: Skeet6]
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Registered: 12/24/11
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My tires have always been slathered with the stuff.

Never noticed anything negative.
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#4750523 - 05/07/18 08:01 PM Re: Tire shine type products... Bad for tires? [Re: Skeet6]
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Registered: 08/22/04
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Some are good, some are bad. If you search the www for detailing forums and chemical analyses of them you'll find which ones are bad, and which are good.

One that I've seen the stats on is Lexol Vinylex. It really protects against UV and doesn't build up.

Have fun searching!
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#4750556 - 05/07/18 08:24 PM Re: Tire shine type products... Bad for tires? [Re: Skeet6]
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Every kind I have used turns the tires brown. Aerospace 303 will provide a slight sheen while protecting.
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#4750575 - 05/07/18 08:40 PM Re: Tire shine type products... Bad for tires? [Re: Skeet6]
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some are really bad and dry them out.. others are good.
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#4750619 - 05/07/18 09:25 PM Re: Tire shine type products... Bad for tires? [Re: cheesepuffs]
AITG Offline


Registered: 12/22/06
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Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: cheesepuffs
If anything I would think some would protect the rubber from UV and possible slow down dry rotting of the sidewalls. I don’t know which ones off the shelf that would be, but I believe some of them are silicone based and others are water based, similar to interior vinyl cleaners. Either way I wouldn’t worry about it personally.


Motor home people obsess over this, since most of them change tires on age rather than mileage or tread depth. The prevailing choice to protect against UV attack is 303. It makes the tires look like new (as opposed to shiny/oily) and it isn't slick on the tread surface.
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#4750712 - 05/07/18 11:21 PM Re: Tire shine type products... Bad for tires? [Re: Skeet6]
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Registered: 12/14/02
Posts: 41979
Loc: New Jersey
One time I had a detail done, and the product used lasted near forever. It was matte, and while it looked like the tires were coated (BFG All terrain so lots of sidewall), they never turned brown.

After sitting a long while, they would pick up some pollen or dust. The coating had a slight adhesive property to it... But nothing severe.

Ive used 303 but it always seems to me that it washes off, fwiw.

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#4750750 - 05/08/18 12:57 AM Re: Tire shine type products... Bad for tires? [Re: Skeet6]
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Registered: 01/27/11
Posts: 523
Loc: Anaheim, CA
I don't know about the effect on tires, but I finally found the source of the oil/grease streaks on the sides of my car: America's Tire tire shine.
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#4750834 - 05/08/18 07:08 AM Re: Tire shine type products... Bad for tires? [Re: Skeet6]
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Registered: 09/19/08
Posts: 1953
Loc: Pennsylvania
Some of these products can pull the wax in the rubber formula to the surface quicker than normal. The wax is added to rubber formulations as an anti-ozone protectant and works by slowly migrating to the surface over time to provide a protective layer. Pull too much wax out and the tire can become MORE susceptible to ozone cracking.
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#4750842 - 05/08/18 07:22 AM Re: Tire shine type products... Bad for tires? [Re: Skeet6]
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Registered: 12/13/04
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Loc: Chicago Area
When I had the time to really clean/detail my vehicles, I used the Meguiar tire gel and never noticed any problems. As an extra bonus, the stuff smelled like grape candy. LOL
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#4750844 - 05/08/18 07:23 AM Re: Tire shine type products... Bad for tires? [Re: Skeet6]
CapriRacer Offline


Registered: 02/22/03
Posts: 3406
Loc: Somewhere in the US
This is a total mixed bag.

The good ones have AO's in them. The bad ones dissolve the rubber.

No single answer here!
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#4752201 - 05/09/18 05:24 PM Re: Tire shine type products... Bad for tires? [Re: CapriRacer]
Skeet6 Offline


Registered: 12/24/13
Posts: 32
Loc: Pike County, PA
Originally Posted By: CapriRacer
This is a total mixed bag.

The good ones have AO's in them. The bad ones dissolve the rubber.

No single answer here!

Do any of you fellas know which are good and which are bad?
Thanks
Mike B

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#4752234 - 05/09/18 05:54 PM Re: Tire shine type products... Bad for tires? [Re: cheesepuffs]
nthach Offline


Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 4077
Loc: California
Originally Posted By: cheesepuffs
but I believe some of them are silicone based and others are water based, similar to interior vinyl cleaners..

Most tire shines and rubber/vinyl dressing have silicone emulsions in them. It's a difference of whether the dressing in question is waterborne or solvent based. In my part of California due to air quality standards, solvent based tire shine and rubber dressing is banned. I've seen the full-service car washes apply something that looks like Armor All to tires or brush on a thick dressing.

The tire makers generally warn against solvent based dressings or excessively alkaline/acidic cleaners.

Here's what I think the local full-service washes use:
http://www.productioncarcare.com/car-wax-polish-tire-dressing/super-tire-dressing/gal-tko-protectant
http://psdetailproducts.com/i-17540363-island-shine.html
http://www.meguiars.com/en/professional/products/d17001-hyper-dressing/

I can't find a datasheet or SDS for Zep/Ecolab's brands used at car washes(Armor All Professional/Black Magic Professional)

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