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Rislone Clean Oil Analysis #474874 03/10/03 07:00 PM
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As promised here is the analysis for Rislone.


Oil Brand/Weight : Rislone additive
Type Equipment : clean oil
Miles/Hours on oil : clean
Total Miles/Hours : clean

Results ppm/% Comments (blank=normal)
Wear
Copper 0
Iron 0
Chromium 0
Lead 0
Aluminum 0
Silicon 1
Tin 0

Additives
Molybdenum 0
Sodium 0
Magnesium 0
Zinc 380
Potassium 0
Phosphorus 352
Calcium 768

Physical Properties
Water negative

Sulfur na
TBN 5
[email protected] C (cSt) 9.2 SAE 20w
TAN 0.5

This is the Rislone "Add at Oil Change" additive found in the Yellow bottle, and cost's approx. $2.29 at Walmart. The oil is dyed blue/green. As you can see it is nothing more than a 20 weight mineral oil with very low levels of calcium detergent, some anti-foam, and very low levels of ZDDP, about 1/4 to 1/5 of the level you would find in an SL formulated motor oil. The level of detergent is too low to really affect cleaning. Any "run-of-the-mill" OTC motor oil will contain much more detergent than this brew.

Advantages to using this OTC additive? None whatsoever.

Disadvantages: 1.) Cost. In my view it should cost less than Walmart's Oil Additive in the blue bottle ($.78), since Rislone contains less ZDDP. 2.) Thinning of the crankcase oil. If I had an engine spected to run 30 weight oil this additive would thin it down. Testing revealed no viscosity index improvers (VII's) to keep the oil from thinning down.

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Very interesting, thanks for posting it!

(I moved this to the virgin samples section for you)

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Molakule, thanks for the info. Down the road, I might try to get my hands on some Neutra and run a VOA.

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Neutra uses esters to clean, that won't show on a VOA

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quote:
Originally posted by Jason Troxell:
Neutra uses esters to clean, that won't show on a VOA

Chances are pretty good that Rislone won't be using much, if any esters in their $2 product though.

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True, I doubt they do. Maybe they use some solvents to clean? That wouldn't show either. Is that possible.

But I also meant that for Groucho to do a VOA on Neutra would probably be pointless as it would show up pretty much blank. And we know why already.

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Thanks Jason,

i guess then that it was pointless to do a VOA on Rislone?

We assume no esters, but we don't know.

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There are certain chemicals one can use to test for esters as the esters will agglomerate to the wall of a beaker when these chemicals are added to an oil.

No esters were found in Rislone, and Rislone makes no declarations about there being any in their products.

I ran these tests on Rislone and CD2 at the request of a number of people on the board who wanted to see if there were any real economic or mechanical benefits to some of these OTC additives.

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Kudos to you Molakule, it's a valuable report. I hope to contribute more soon, hence my idea about neutra.

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molakule, could you do a sample on synergyn's oil treatment?

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I sent the VOA to Rislone and got a response from one of their VP's with (hopefully) a promise of another response from their tribologist.


http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=000366;p=1#000000

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Their tribologist responded(posted in additives section), not a lot of detail though. Wish someone more knowledgable than me could tell me if there's anything to their points--

1. That the product is different when mixed with oil than a stand alone product.
2. That some of the factors don't show up in testing.

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And this means......?

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