Plane Crash In Scottsdale Kills 6

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Everything was O.K. until the plane hit the ground. It looks like one side of the plane quit flying.
 
Originally Posted By: bdcardinal
Originally Posted By: NormanBuntz
I hope it didn't damage the TPC golf course.


I know it is bad but that was my first thought also.


This must be an incredible golf course.
 
Horrific crash ... at least it was pretty much instantaneous.

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Probably Spartan trained.
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Originally Posted By: AZjeff
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Probably costs more t0 find and train a qualified pilot than to buy a new plane. Quite a skill.
 
Even when considering the cost of their training, pay, and benefits, a fighter pilot is lot cheaper than the plane these days.

In World War Two, the pilot was much more expensive.

However, even though the economics have changed, the training has become much more lengthy and involved. It takes three years to get a fighter pilot to the point that they can safely fly and employ the airplane.

Over a decade to get to the point of being truly skilled with it.

That is part of why the USAF and USN are so short of pilots right now - they're leaving faster than they can be replaced.
 
Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
Pilots make mistakes...


Sadly, this will always be true.

Even the very best pilots make tiny mistakes that they continually correct...and they're able to maintain generous safety margins.

But an uncorrected mistake, particularly a big mistake, in aviation can quickly lead to disaster.
 
"Training" flight?

If only he had paid attention to his prior training, he would never have been in that low, slow, steep turn, with all six seats filled with adults, in what is really a four seat airplane, to begin with.

Hard to watch. Hope his passengers didn't know what was about to happen to them.

edit: https://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviation/brief.aspx?ev_id=20180410X32846

" The airline transport pilot, student pilot, and 4 passengers were fatally injured. ..."
 
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We had one fall on our plant grounds in Wichita about 40 years ago, same thing. Turn too sharp too low, and fail to maintain proper flying speed. They called it low level stunting.

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I remember a horrific video of a B-52 pilot doing low level demo flying. Got too slow with too much bank angle and what for a BUFF would practically be Nape of the Earth altitude. Disasterous.
 
Astro, is it true that F-16's, (and perhaps some other model fighters), have small Hydrazine tanks for emergency power? If so that would make them pretty dangerous to start wandering around right after a crash like this one. That stuff is really toxic and dangerous.
 
This is yet another similar incident that occurred at a executive airport outside of Chicago a while back. Aircraft appears at around the 35 second mark. You would think that after enough of this, pilots would catch on to the fact airplanes don't drive like cars. They need speed to safely turn.
 
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