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Toyota 4.0L v-6, Mobil 1 AP, 20k OCI. #4746921
05/03/18 05:18 PM
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Billings,MT
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(original UOA post deleted by OP; posted on page 2)

Last edited by dnewton3; 05/06/18 05:44 AM. Reason: updated thread title
Re: Mobil 1 Annual performance 20,000 Mile OCI. [Re: Bwalker] #4746924
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This vehicle is driven in incredibly dusty conditions. Along with lites of highway cruising at 90mph and alot of time in 4wd.
I have also checked the air filter and the seal lip was a bit buggered up on the OEM air filter. The band clamp to the intake was a bit loose as well, but didnt appear to be leaking. I plan to resample at 10K and see what it looks like.
Any comments?

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Re: Mobil 1 Annual performance 20,000 Mile OCI. [Re: Bwalker] #4746933
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Looks like you took it to the limit.
Dusty means severe service-right?

Re: Mobil 1 Annual performance 20,000 Mile OCI. [Re: Bwalker] #4746934
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I would blank out your personal details.


2017 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring

Valvoline Advanced Synthetic 0w20
Mobil 1 M108A EP filter

Re: Mobil 1 Annual performance 20,000 Mile OCI. [Re: AirgunSavant] #4746942
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Originally Posted By: AirgunSavant
Looks like you took it to the limit.
Dusty means severe service-right?

My daily commute is 45 miles of highway at 90mph, 25 miles of two lane at 70 and 5 miles of extremley dusty dirt roads. I do this 15 shifts per month and many times in 4wd for the entire trip albeit a bit slower. Then when I am off I use the truck for hunting alot and its a 60/40 mix of dirt to paved. The truck is very well maintained, but I would say these are definitely severe conditions.
I wonder if I would be better of qith Mobil 1 EP, which is what I ran from new, at a 15k drain given the dirt and the obvious increase in wear metals. Or maybe just go back to conventional oil at 7500.

Re: Mobil 1 Annual performance 20,000 Mile OCI. [Re: Bwalker] #4746949
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I think 10k is a safe bet given your use. ( considering mechanical sympathy)
What oil filter were you using?

Re: Mobil 1 Annual performance 20,000 Mile OCI. [Re: Bwalker] #4746962
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Originally Posted By: Bwalker



Your analysis looks like it disappeared.


If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: Mobil 1 Annual performance 20,000 Mile OCI. [Re: Snagglefoot] #4746974
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Looks like he dumped it because of the private info.

Re: Mobil 1 Annual performance 20,000 Mile OCI. [Re: Bwalker] #4746984
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Im guessing he will repost it without the personal info. The op has a unique commute and being in Montana with the climate and the speeds as he mentioned, I would seriously consider this a severe use vehicle. It gets worked.

On his suggestion of M1 EP, that could be a good choice if he favors M1. I might think about 10k oci.


2017 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring

Valvoline Advanced Synthetic 0w20
Mobil 1 M108A EP filter

Re: Mobil 1 Annual performance 20,000 Mile OCI. [Re: Bwalker] #4746994
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The issues with the air filter and subsequent higher silicon has contributed to your higher wear metals. I would concentrate on sorting that before increasing your OCI again. Further, I would look at a different brand of air filter while employing some filter grease.


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Re: Mobil 1 Annual performance 20,000 Mile OCI. [Re: PimTac] #4747104
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Originally Posted By: PimTac
I would blank out your personal details.


When I lived in Montana, we never cared about that stuff.

Come on up and be a new friend.....
if friendship isn't the goal, you'd be target practice.


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Mobil 1 Annual performance 20,000 Mile OCI. [Re: Bwalker] #4747118
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I also had high silicon and a lot of forest fire ash, some that made it through the filter. I am putting in a Fram Tough Guard air filter this summer. Im just north of Montana and they had a lot of forest fires as well.


If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: Mobil 1 Annual performance 20,000 Mile OCI. [Re: Linctex] #4747137
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Originally Posted By: Linctex

if friendship isn't the goal, you'd be target practice.


Well said!


I can't see the UOA either....


I'm a thickie; but a 20 has its place.

I use AMSOIL

Hers: 2008 Jeep Liberty 138k, SS 5w30/Amsoil

His: 2015 4Runner 41k, OE 5w20/Wix

Re: Mobil 1 Annual performance 20,000 Mile OCI. [Re: Snagglefoot] #4747141
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Re: Mobil 1 Annual performance 20,000 Mile OCI. [Re: 2015_PSD] #4747144
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Originally Posted By: 2015_PSD
The issues with the air filter and subsequent higher silicon has contributed to your higher wear metals. I would concentrate on sorting that before increasing your OCI again. Further, I would look at a different brand of air filter while employing some filter grease.

I replaced the OEM filter with a Napa Gold/Wix today. I greased the gasket and tighted the clamp between the air box and the intake manifold.
The air box did not appear to be very dirty so I am hoping it was just the gasket deficiency I noted in my initial post.

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