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2009 F150 5.4 3 Valve Engine Seized #4744712
05/01/18 04:11 PM
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Houston
PReal Offline OP
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164k religious 5k oil changes with full synthetic.

Was driving today and suddenly engine locked up. No drop in oil pressure, plenty of oil on the dipstick,no overheating. No check engine lights no nothing until it locked up while diving then the low oil pressure light flickered. No crazy ticking, no loss in power. Just sudden engine seizure. Took the belt off, didnít help, pulled 3 plugs, no change.

Starter tries to kick over the engine and it rocks in the engine bay. Got it towed to a local rebuilder that has done 5.4 3vís in the last week. This truck has literally never had a problem outside of a wheel bearing!

What gives?


Last edited by PReal; 05/01/18 04:11 PM. Reason: Spelling

2009 F150 5.4
2008 Yukon 5.3
1996 F150 4.9 M5OD
1966 Ranchero 289 T5
1965 Mustang 306 T5
Re: 2009 F150 5.4 3 Valve Engine Seized [Re: PReal] #4744716
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broken timing chain prolly that is now bound up somewhere, was it ticking before?

Re: 2009 F150 5.4 3 Valve Engine Seized [Re: PReal] #4744718
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Long shot guess would be timing chain also.


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Re: 2009 F150 5.4 3 Valve Engine Seized [Re: PReal] #4744740
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It would be nice if you shared more info about the oil, like weights and brands.


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Re: 2009 F150 5.4 3 Valve Engine Seized [Re: PReal] #4744746
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Don't worry, just use PYB


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Re: 2009 F150 5.4 3 Valve Engine Seized [Re: PReal] #4744754
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Pull all 8 spark plugs! Pulling 3 random ones doesn't mean much.


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Re: 2009 F150 5.4 3 Valve Engine Seized [Re: PReal] #4744776
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PReal Offline OP
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Already at the shop. Itís had a steady dose of castrol, pennzoil, or mobil 1.

Typically 0w20, 5w20 or 0w30.


2009 F150 5.4
2008 Yukon 5.3
1996 F150 4.9 M5OD
1966 Ranchero 289 T5
1965 Mustang 306 T5
Re: 2009 F150 5.4 3 Valve Engine Seized [Re: PReal] #4744777
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Originally Posted By: PReal
Already at the shop. Itís had a steady dose of castrol, pennzoil, or mobil 1.

Typically 0w20, 5w20 or 0w30.


2009 F150 5.4
2008 Yukon 5.3
1996 F150 4.9 M5OD
1966 Ranchero 289 T5
1965 Mustang 306 T5
Re: 2009 F150 5.4 3 Valve Engine Seized [Re: PReal] #4744793
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popcorn


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Re: 2009 F150 5.4 3 Valve Engine Seized [Re: PReal] #4744814
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If the engine rocks in the engine bay it wouldn't be the engine that's seized you wouldn't think. In order to rock the starter would have to be torquing against something in the driveline, if the engine is completely seized there should be no rocking.

Just a theory.


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Re: 2009 F150 5.4 3 Valve Engine Seized [Re: PReal] #4744842
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Crown Point, IN
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Pretty normal for those 3v junks. Same thing happened to my old managers F-150


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Re: 2009 F150 5.4 3 Valve Engine Seized [Re: PReal] #4744843
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Check the status of that oil. mine had no issues for a month and a half. turn out the "oil" was no good.

Re: 2009 F150 5.4 3 Valve Engine Seized [Re: PReal] #4744870
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Sorry to hear...it will be interesting to hear what the mechanic finds.

Speculate the main bearings. Or timing chain. Or both.


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Re: 2009 F150 5.4 3 Valve Engine Seized [Re: ctechbob] #4744896
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Originally Posted By: ctechbob
If the engine rocks in the engine bay it wouldn't be the engine that's seized you wouldn't think. In order to rock the starter would have to be torquing against something in the driveline, if the engine is completely seized there should be no rocking.

Just a theory.


This. I would look at the transmission before the engine. A seized engine will only make a ďclickĒ sound and no engine movement. With no warning or noise I find it hard to believe the engine is the issue.


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Re: 2009 F150 5.4 3 Valve Engine Seized [Re: PReal] #4744936
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I'm guessing driveline not engine also.

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