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We Don't Need No Stinking De-Icing! #4740509
04/27/18 12:19 PM
04/27/18 12:19 PM
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Glendale, Arizona
billt460 Offline OP
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See, all de-iced. What's the problem? .. Now rotate!


Re: We Don't Need No Stinking De-Icing! [Re: billt460] #4740513
04/27/18 12:22 PM
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They crash about ten times as often as western carriers...which should come as no surprise when you see this video...


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Re: We Don't Need No Stinking De-Icing! [Re: Astro14] #4740559
04/27/18 01:15 PM
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Wet side WA
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Originally Posted By: Astro14
They crash about ten times as often as western carriers...which should come as no surprise when you see this video...


THIS! thumbsup


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Re: We Don't Need No Stinking De-Icing! [Re: billt460] #4740587
04/27/18 01:49 PM
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That was snow, not hard ice.

Re: We Don't Need No Stinking De-Icing! [Re: billt460] #4740590
04/27/18 01:53 PM
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the landing gear sounds like a husky

Re: We Don't Need No Stinking De-Icing! [Re: billt460] #4740608
04/27/18 02:15 PM
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That's incredibly negligent. That PTU or pump sounds very... tired.


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Re: We Don't Need No Stinking De-Icing! [Re: billt460] #4740611
04/27/18 02:18 PM
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I didn't see a problem.


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Re: We Don't Need No Stinking De-Icing! [Re: Astro14] #4740648
04/27/18 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted By: Astro14
They crash about ten times as often as western carriers...which should come as no surprise when you see this video...


Why not use vodka for deicing? They have plenty of it.


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Re: We Don't Need No Stinking De-Icing! [Re: OneEyeJack] #4740727
04/27/18 04:09 PM
04/27/18 04:09 PM
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Virginia Beach
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Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
That was snow, not hard ice.


What they did was both dangerous and illegal.

The wing was contaminated. Snow, ice, doesn't matter as both disturb the airflow and degrade the performance of the wing. Even after takeoff, it still had snow clinging to it.

The generic term, deicing, is used to describe the removal of ALL contamination from the wing surface.


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Re: We Don't Need No Stinking De-Icing! [Re: john_pifer] #4740728
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Originally Posted By: john_pifer
I didn't see a problem.


I can't tell if you're joking...


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Re: We Don't Need No Stinking De-Icing! [Re: Donald] #4740731
04/27/18 04:12 PM
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Glendale, Arizona
billt460 Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Donald
Why not use vodka for deicing? They have plenty of it.


The passengers were most likely too busy drinking it. I didn't hear a peep out of any of them. They couldn't have cared less.

Re: We Don't Need No Stinking De-Icing! [Re: billt460] #4740806
04/27/18 05:52 PM
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Yikes. No thanks.


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But 20s have their place

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Re: We Don't Need No Stinking De-Icing! [Re: billt460] #4740810
04/27/18 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted By: billt460
Originally Posted By: Donald
Why not use vodka for deicing? They have plenty of it.


The passengers were most likely too busy drinking it. I didn't hear a peep out of any of them. They couldn't have cared less.

I'll bet over 90% of them had no clue of the danger.

Last edited by cjcride; 04/27/18 05:58 PM.
Re: We Don't Need No Stinking De-Icing! [Re: Astro14] #4742234
04/29/18 10:36 AM
04/29/18 10:36 AM
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In the shop
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Originally Posted By: Astro14
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
That was snow, not hard ice.


What they did was both dangerous and illegal.

The wing was contaminated. Snow, ice, doesn't matter as both disturb the airflow and degrade the performance of the wing. Even after takeoff, it still had snow clinging to it.

The generic term, deicing, is used to describe the removal of ALL contamination from the wing surface.


Yeah, ill stick with USA airlines smile


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Re: We Don't Need No Stinking De-Icing! [Re: Astro14] #4742257
04/29/18 11:12 AM
04/29/18 11:12 AM
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Ontario, Canada
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Originally Posted By: Astro14
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
That was snow, not hard ice.


What they did was both dangerous and illegal.

The wing was contaminated. Snow, ice, doesn't matter as both disturb the airflow and degrade the performance of the wing. Even after takeoff, it still had snow clinging to it.

The generic term, deicing, is used to describe the removal of ALL contamination from the wing surface.

It's not like it was -20C and 2" of fluff that fell on it during boarding either, some of that was sticking pretty good like it had been on there a while. I guess the pilot could have insisted on getting it cleared off, but chose not too for some reason?


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