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#4740509 - 04/27/18 12:19 PM We Don't Need No Stinking De-Icing!
billt460 Offline


Registered: 03/30/15
Posts: 4206
Loc: Glendale, Arizona
See, all de-iced. What's the problem? .. Now rotate!


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#4740513 - 04/27/18 12:22 PM Re: We Don't Need No Stinking De-Icing! [Re: billt460]
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They crash about ten times as often as western carriers...which should come as no surprise when you see this video...
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#4740559 - 04/27/18 01:15 PM Re: We Don't Need No Stinking De-Icing! [Re: Astro14]
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Originally Posted By: Astro14
They crash about ten times as often as western carriers...which should come as no surprise when you see this video...


THIS! thumbsup
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#4740587 - 04/27/18 01:49 PM Re: We Don't Need No Stinking De-Icing! [Re: billt460]
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Registered: 09/14/10
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That was snow, not hard ice.

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#4740590 - 04/27/18 01:53 PM Re: We Don't Need No Stinking De-Icing! [Re: billt460]
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the landing gear sounds like a husky
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#4740608 - 04/27/18 02:15 PM Re: We Don't Need No Stinking De-Icing! [Re: billt460]
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That's incredibly negligent. That PTU or pump sounds very... tired.
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#4740611 - 04/27/18 02:18 PM Re: We Don't Need No Stinking De-Icing! [Re: billt460]
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I didn't see a problem.
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#4740648 - 04/27/18 02:53 PM Re: We Don't Need No Stinking De-Icing! [Re: Astro14]
Donald Offline


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Originally Posted By: Astro14
They crash about ten times as often as western carriers...which should come as no surprise when you see this video...


Why not use vodka for deicing? They have plenty of it.
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#4740727 - 04/27/18 04:09 PM Re: We Don't Need No Stinking De-Icing! [Re: OneEyeJack]
Astro14 Offline


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Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
That was snow, not hard ice.


What they did was both dangerous and illegal.

The wing was contaminated. Snow, ice, doesn't matter as both disturb the airflow and degrade the performance of the wing. Even after takeoff, it still had snow clinging to it.

The generic term, deicing, is used to describe the removal of ALL contamination from the wing surface.
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#4740728 - 04/27/18 04:09 PM Re: We Don't Need No Stinking De-Icing! [Re: john_pifer]
Astro14 Offline


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Originally Posted By: john_pifer
I didn't see a problem.


I can't tell if you're joking...
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#4740731 - 04/27/18 04:12 PM Re: We Don't Need No Stinking De-Icing! [Re: Donald]
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Originally Posted By: Donald
Why not use vodka for deicing? They have plenty of it.


The passengers were most likely too busy drinking it. I didn't hear a peep out of any of them. They couldn't have cared less.

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#4740806 - 04/27/18 05:52 PM Re: We Don't Need No Stinking De-Icing! [Re: billt460]
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Yikes. No thanks.
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#4740810 - 04/27/18 05:58 PM Re: We Don't Need No Stinking De-Icing! [Re: billt460]
cjcride Offline


Registered: 11/06/09
Posts: 1807
Loc: Ontario Canada
Originally Posted By: billt460
Originally Posted By: Donald
Why not use vodka for deicing? They have plenty of it.


The passengers were most likely too busy drinking it. I didn't hear a peep out of any of them. They couldn't have cared less.

I'll bet over 90% of them had no clue of the danger.


Edited by cjcride (04/27/18 05:58 PM)

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#4742234 - 04/29/18 10:36 AM Re: We Don't Need No Stinking De-Icing! [Re: Astro14]
car51 Offline


Registered: 03/12/15
Posts: 10059
Loc: Southwest PA
Originally Posted By: Astro14
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
That was snow, not hard ice.


What they did was both dangerous and illegal.

The wing was contaminated. Snow, ice, doesn't matter as both disturb the airflow and degrade the performance of the wing. Even after takeoff, it still had snow clinging to it.

The generic term, deicing, is used to describe the removal of ALL contamination from the wing surface.


Yeah, ill stick with USA airlines smile

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#4742257 - 04/29/18 11:12 AM Re: We Don't Need No Stinking De-Icing! [Re: Astro14]
IndyIan Offline


Registered: 09/23/08
Posts: 9030
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: Astro14
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
That was snow, not hard ice.


What they did was both dangerous and illegal.

The wing was contaminated. Snow, ice, doesn't matter as both disturb the airflow and degrade the performance of the wing. Even after takeoff, it still had snow clinging to it.

The generic term, deicing, is used to describe the removal of ALL contamination from the wing surface.

It's not like it was -20C and 2" of fluff that fell on it during boarding either, some of that was sticking pretty good like it had been on there a while. I guess the pilot could have insisted on getting it cleared off, but chose not too for some reason?
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