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Shell Helix Ultra 0W40, 3070Km, Fiat Barchetta #4739923
04/26/18 06:39 PM
04/26/18 06:39 PM
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Frogland / Brittany / Canada
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First analysis with this new to me 1998 Fiat Barchetta. Winter run with SHU 0W40, Mann 712/16 filter. Only 3070Km (7 months) on the oil, mostly short trips, but I didn't change the oil yet.
Real vehicle mileage unknown, around 160-170000Km, tachometer isn't the original.

I initially chose this pretty thin 0W40 oil because of the winter and short trips, but the variable intake system (oil actuated) doesn't seem to like the thin oil on cold start, so next oil will probably be some 229.5 Total 5W40.

Silicon is either from residual previous oil, or from the Loctite 5910 used on the idle valve system. Air filter is a Purflux A340, was changed with the oil.



For those who don't know the Barchetta, it's a small and light convertible from the 90's (based on the Fiat Punto), engine is a 1750cm3 twin cam, variable intake, given for 130hp.





96 Barchetta, 300V 5W40 | Forfour 95, SHU 0W40
Mazda 6 2.3, M1 0W40 | Colt Ralliart, 300V 0W40
Re: Shell Helix Ultra 0W40, 3070Km, Fiat Barchetta [Re: Popsy] #4739934
04/26/18 06:51 PM
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Nice. I have never seen one up here. I imagine it likes to rev. Is this the same as the 124 Spyder exported to North America?

Last edited by Snagglefoot; 04/26/18 06:58 PM.

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Re: Shell Helix Ultra 0W40, 3070Km, Fiat Barchetta [Re: Popsy] #4739940
04/26/18 06:58 PM
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Redline is 7200 rpm...and it likes to rev, indeed! Actually cutoff feels way too early!

The variable intake system is on/off, switches to "performance" (lol) mode over 4000rpm...as an old school 16V, it really wakes up over 5000rpm only, and if the "long" gearing doesn't contribute to give a feeling of real power, it's still a very fun car to drive while preserving your license.

(Although this 98 model feels more "castrated" than the "wilder" 96 I have, which has a less refined engine programming but feels more eager to rev (or it's just a coincidence)).

Edit : nope not like the 124, the predecessor smile 1995-2005


96 Barchetta, 300V 5W40 | Forfour 95, SHU 0W40
Mazda 6 2.3, M1 0W40 | Colt Ralliart, 300V 0W40
Re: Shell Helix Ultra 0W40, 3070Km, Fiat Barchetta [Re: Popsy] #4739942
04/26/18 06:59 PM
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The land of USA-made Subies!
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Looks like (and sounds like it's powered like) a Miata with an aero nose. Cool ride!

Re: Shell Helix Ultra 0W40, 3070Km, Fiat Barchetta [Re: SubieRubyRoo] #4739945
04/26/18 07:02 PM
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Yep, it has a lot in common with the Miata..let's say it's an Italian copy!


96 Barchetta, 300V 5W40 | Forfour 95, SHU 0W40
Mazda 6 2.3, M1 0W40 | Colt Ralliart, 300V 0W40
Re: Shell Helix Ultra 0W40, 3070Km, Fiat Barchetta [Re: Popsy] #4739966
04/26/18 07:23 PM
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Good looking car and the oil still looks really good as well


1994 Jeep 161k Castrol Synblend 10w30
2014 Camry 37k Havoline 5w20
2018 Jeep Cherokee 4k FactFill
2014 HD Ultra 42k Mobil1 15w50
2012 Rav4 39k Mobil 1 0w20
Re: Shell Helix Ultra 0W40, 3070Km, Fiat Barchetta [Re: Popsy] #4740109
04/26/18 11:22 PM
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Would do much more than 10k km ,I guess.

Re: Shell Helix Ultra 0W40, 3070Km, Fiat Barchetta [Re: Popsy] #4740141
04/27/18 01:37 AM
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Factory standard OCI is 20K Km, I guess itís doable !
Didnít pay for TBN cause it was useless in my case, the oil seems very strong, and engine easy on it.


96 Barchetta, 300V 5W40 | Forfour 95, SHU 0W40
Mazda 6 2.3, M1 0W40 | Colt Ralliart, 300V 0W40
Re: Shell Helix Ultra 0W40, 3070Km, Fiat Barchetta [Re: Snagglefoot] #4740244
04/27/18 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted By: Snagglefoot
Nice. I have never seen one up here. I imagine it likes to rev. Is this the same as the 124 Spyder exported to North America?


No. The 124 spider is an MX5. This is a mk1 Punto.


Cable ties should hold it
Re: Shell Helix Ultra 0W40, 3070Km, Fiat Barchetta [Re: Popsy] #4740249
04/27/18 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted By: Popsy
Yep, it has a lot in common with the Miata..let's say it's an Italian copy!


Fwd vs Rwd
Both have soft top
Some similarities but hardly a copy...


Cable ties should hold it
Re: Shell Helix Ultra 0W40, 3070Km, Fiat Barchetta [Re: Olas] #4740273
04/27/18 07:10 AM
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My point was just about the styling, also more the "style of driving" you get with these 2 cars.
I'd say the Barchetta was the Italian answer to the Miata.


96 Barchetta, 300V 5W40 | Forfour 95, SHU 0W40
Mazda 6 2.3, M1 0W40 | Colt Ralliart, 300V 0W40
Re: Shell Helix Ultra 0W40, 3070Km, Fiat Barchetta [Re: Popsy] #4740300
04/27/18 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted By: Popsy
My point was just about the styling, also more the "style of driving" you get with these 2 cars.
I'd say the Barchetta was the Italian answer to the Miata.


Fiats 131 is much more analogous to the MX5

https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fiat_131_Abarth,_Bangsaen_Speed_Festival_2007.jpg


Cable ties should hold it

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